Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: coaster500 on August 01, 2012, 09:16:15 pm
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I've got a stave that is a bit twisted, snakey and dimensionally challenged. It is 1 1/8 wide at the center and only 1" wide at the first snakey twist. Should I try to build a bow with these odd dimensions or should I cut it in half and splice it? I have never done a splice but there's a first time for everything??? It is 2"s wide on both ends..... What do you think to cut or not to cut... That is the question :)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Osage%20Snake%20number%20two/stave.jpg)
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I'd cut and splice, it'll not only give you the needed width in the working limb but it'll put the snakey part farther out in the limb where it will look cool and be under slightly less stress. It'll make a 64" bow this way.
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Seen that bad boy on Ebay. Thought about going after it, but the placement of that snake gave me pause. Hope to see it come to fruition for ya.
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Is 2"s wide enough for a splice?
I have done a two peice takedown sleve before and there is plenty of wood for that.
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Your thinking right kip....cut n splice that sucker.
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Ditto to what Blackhawk said........
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I agree. I would cut and splice or make a take down.
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Is 2"s wide enough for a splice?
I have done a two peice takedown sleve before and there is plenty of wood for that.
Sure you can splice a 1" width. You don't want to splice and then cut a lot of the glue line off in making the handle anyway.
But your idea of a takedown sleeve would allow him to keep the full 68" length. 64" is plenty though.
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Thanks guys :)
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kip im gonna disagerr with this one sorry but id make the bow as it is kerry and i make lots of sleander osage bows under a inch wide just make it oval or half round with a lot more wood on the bottom limbs dont need to be flat after all if u cut er and splice it ull loose the chartcher right ? and ur purpose is to make a chartcher bow so re think it i wouldnt be a bit scared to do it that way brock ps ill text u a pic of one i made like that
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I'd like to see it Brock... I haven't decided what to do yet but I may put it to the test, that it doesn't take much osage to make a bow :laugh:
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#1-cut it
#2-setto it in a set of take down sleeves
#3shoot er in
#4-send to me for further inspection >:D
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I never cut wood that'll make a bow as-is and that one will. If you splice it, use the 2 ends for the splice. Either way, should make a nice bow.
George
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More I make the more I'm learnin to go with what the wood gives ya. I could go either way on this, but I'm leanin towards not cutting it. You should be making the decision based on what specs you need outta it. If you have to hit huntin weight and a 29" draw, then maybe consider a glue up (maybe add some reflex?!?) If you aren't so tightly limited then just go slow and let the bow talk its way thru it. 1" is plenty of osage, no doubt! That stave could be pretty either way.
Scott
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I wouldn't cut it. Plenty of Osage there to make a good bow. Use a little more rounded belly and you will be fine. Dean
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If it were me I think I would make a long,lean elb outta that stave as is, but its not me, its you Kip. Like others have already said It will work either way, just depends on what tou want out of it. Is that one of the pieces I sent ya? I dont remember sending one that looked lime that.
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Jamie ELB??? Interesting would you straighten it? I haven't seen a snakey ELB??? Now I am very curious rounded belly is one thing but ELB is another isn't it?
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I dont know all the technicalities of what qualifies as an elb Kip. When I say elb I just mean a long, skinny bend thru the handle bow with a semi rounded belly. I would straighten it enough for the tips to line up but other than that leave the character in it. Thats just me though.
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Thanks Jamey... Brock sent this picture looks to be what you're talking about
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/2_Resampled952011-08-129511-13-0095564.jpg)
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exactly what im saying round that belly sorta make it elb style it ll work either way but the snakes way more prettir ;D brock
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Id cut in half and make the ends the handle. The narrow part would then be at the tips.
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Hedge really isn't much suited to an ELB style, being as heavy as it is. and if that 1" wavy section is like ones I've had, you can easily wind with with 3/4" width once its smoothed on the sides.
That said, thats a pretty snakey stave you posted there coaster!
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TOM THAT BOW HAS BEEN TILLERD OUT IT S AT EXACTLY 58# AFTER OVER 600 SHOTS THRU IT IV MADE SEVERAL OSAGE LONG BOWS HEDGE AINT AS HEAVEY AS YA THINK AND IT STILL SITS AT 1 IN WIDE BROCK >:D
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Brock she's pretty, no doubt. On that pretty of a stave I could see going that route just to preserve the symmetry. On the stave the OP has, I don't see the same opportunity. On the other hand, if he cut and spliced he could have a better chance making one of those.
What kind of cross section does that bow have? at an inch wide I don't suppose its 5/8" thick is it? So its a longbow, but not an ELB per se?
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tom thats about 1 wide 5/8 at handel maybe 3/4 never measured it now has leather on it goes to about 1/2 thicK 1/4 wiDe at tip s thats one of the twisted sisters the worst one of the lot it s 66 n t n but i love this bow had it on display at mojam last year while i was workin it iv made some even worse n that stave kip has thats about aLL I DO anymore is snakey twisted staves what u guys throw away is what i like lol dean will tell ya haha i love the challange brock
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I wouldn't throw that stave away! I don't remember seeing it last year but probably did. Where do you camp at MOJAM? I don't run across primo snakey stuff very often, so I do focus mostly on clean hedge. I tend to get more stuff like the OP has, fairly straight but one big whoop de doo in a crappy place. I have many pieces like that in storage. Never throw anything away, someday I'll work it, sure.
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lenny last year i had my big 38 ft 5 th wheel up on the hill usaly im hangin with dvs chris kerry b and me are always togather i had a bunch of snaky ones this year . i agree with ya never throw any away bro i think u n me met haha just waiting or all the guys to get out here elk hunting in a few weeks brock
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I'd make a take down putting the ends in the sleeves. But I think takedowns are cool so I could be bias.
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Thanks guys for the feedback
I'm going to cut it... looking at the narrow area at the bend you can see the weird split to the right of it... well it does the same thing on the belly side and does not leave enough wood under the left edge for a rounded belly but leaves plenty for a limb closer to the tip if I cut and flip it...
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/Osage%20Snake%20number%20two/Billits.jpg)