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Title: dowel machines
Post by: T. Talley on June 16, 2012, 02:07:16 pm
Does anyone know if the dowel machine called the Arrow Shooter that Three Rivers used to carry is still being made?  If so were can I find one?  Any input on how well it worked?

Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: Auggie on June 17, 2012, 11:31:11 am
Don't know if they're still being made,Had one,worked fine. All it the shaft shooter is,is a router. You can buy a router cheaper and make shafts. Do a search here and you'll see some jigs and ect.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: JEB on June 19, 2012, 08:23:30 am
Google verita dowel maker.  A friend has one and we have made hundreds of arrows out of board wood that had been cut down to 1/2" squares and run the squares through  the dowel cutter with a drill.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: stringstretcher on June 19, 2012, 08:43:02 am
The shaft shooter that 3R used to sell, is no longer made.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: kevinnator11 on June 21, 2012, 02:42:37 pm
Google verita dowel maker.  A friend has one and we have made hundreds of arrows out of board wood that had been cut down to 1/2" squares and run the squares through  the dowel cutter with a drill.

What do you use to hold the blank?  I use a socket with a drill adaptor but it tends to strip the blank I guess you could call it.  Then i pound a smaller size on it and that works until you need to get the socket back off. :o  That kind of sucks.  It does turn out nice dowels though.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: danlaw on June 21, 2012, 10:46:18 pm
Are you guys talking about the 400$ dowel maker or the small 30$ ones? I bought the small 3/8" one - works ok but tears the wood a bit.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: kevinnator11 on June 22, 2012, 02:10:51 pm
Are you guys talking about the 400$ dowel maker or the small 30$ ones? I bought the small 3/8" one - works ok but tears the wood a bit.

I have the veritas 3/8 cheap one.  Works good once it's adjusted.  For mine I set the blade to the second hash mark on both sides and it's grabs some but with straight grain poplar boards I get a good dowel just have to sand it smooth.  I did have a bit of a hassle until I got the blade depth right.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: Cameroo on June 22, 2012, 04:26:34 pm
I stumbled across this video a while ago on youtube.  I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like a pretty ingenious idea.  He made a dowel cutter from nothing more than a block of wood with a hole drilled in it, and part of a saw blade.  I imagine they would need a bit of sanding as well, but that's minor when you chuck them up in a drill.  After you watch it, you can see other similar setups in the related videos on the side bar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwDjedeJCZ0
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: stringstretcher on June 22, 2012, 04:49:48 pm
I think he was asking about this one, and it is no longer made or available.  And the retail on this one was right around $800.00 dollars.  It is called the Shaft Shooter
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/002-8.jpg)
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e369/STRINGSTRETCHER/001-8.jpg)
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: Prarie Bowyer on June 23, 2012, 04:21:19 am
I saw a great one recently some place.  Two hole drilled to meet in a block of wood.  One the diamater matching the size of the square stock the other the final size.  Then the hole was cut, or the block was and a chissen was clamped at a slight angle... like the pencil sharpener method.  So the hole is not split at the center.  It looked awesome, simple and cheap.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: bubby on June 25, 2012, 07:26:53 pm
I stumbled across this video a while ago on youtube.  I haven't tried it yet, but it seems like a pretty ingenious idea.  He made a dowel cutter from nothing more than a block of wood with a hole drilled in it, and part of a saw blade.  I imagine they would need a bit of sanding as well, but that's minor when you chuck them up in a drill.  After you watch it, you can see other similar setups in the related videos on the side bar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwDjedeJCZ0
i made one of these, works real good, just use a fine cut blade, or you can clamp a file to it, Bub
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: Badger on June 25, 2012, 10:35:11 pm
 You can also use a tablesaw instead of a router.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: JEB on June 26, 2012, 09:29:43 am
we are using the two piece Varita and a 1/2" socket.  No problems.  Just drill the square stock through the Varita slow and be as consistant as you can.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: danlaw on July 02, 2012, 02:52:50 pm
I have the 3/8 Veritas. I wasn't so stoked on it, but I've been fooling around with the depth of the cutter (thanks Kevinator) and it's getting better. I also switched wood. I just did a bunch of hickory shafts and they turned out really really great - quick sand and done. I don't think I'll bother with any other wood with the veritas, though I think that once i make my money back I'll get a router setup so i can try lighter wood.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: kevinnator11 on July 06, 2012, 01:22:18 pm
I have the 3/8 Veritas. I wasn't so stoked on it, but I've been fooling around with the depth of the cutter (thanks Kevinator) and it's getting better. I also switched wood. I just did a bunch of hickory shafts and they turned out really really great - quick sand and done. I don't think I'll bother with any other wood with the veritas, though I think that once i make my money back I'll get a router setup so i can try lighter wood.

Yeah I was ready to throw the thing away until I got the depth right.  I've been using poplar.  It works great and the arrows are pretty durable.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: danlaw on July 08, 2012, 12:03:44 am
Ever try birch?
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: kevinnator11 on July 09, 2012, 03:43:57 pm
Ever try birch?

I haven't but mainly because poplar is easily available at Lowes/Home Depot fairly cheap.  I just pick through to find good straight grains.  I like the bamboo shafts for costs but prefer the hardwoods.  Lots of birch here growing so I may have to try that.  We use that a lot for firewood so just have to cut some longer pieces.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: danlaw on July 18, 2012, 03:10:18 am
I had about two thousand feet of 1x5/8" hickory given to me (made 150 bows and arrows for summer camp out of it). The guy was throwing away about the same amount of birch but I couldn't take it at the time. If it is good for arrows I was thinking of going back to see if it is still there...
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: danlaw on July 24, 2012, 03:06:38 pm
Not sure if anyone is still interested, but this is the set up I am going for next: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vtLKQZ_CtU
Looks cheap and fast and smooth (Not primitive though).
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: Badger on July 26, 2012, 05:22:31 pm
  I posted that router/dowel making jig on line about 10 years ago or so and have always wondered if I was the first one to come out with it. They got really poplular a couple of years later.
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: danlaw on July 27, 2012, 12:03:00 am
Alright! Any improvements?
Title: Re: dowel machines
Post by: Weylin on August 01, 2012, 06:46:15 pm
John Strunk makes and sells a really nice arrow shaft jig. I've seen him use it, it's really slick. I recommend picking one of those up. I intend to get one at some point. I think he sold them for around $70.