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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: sound maker on June 12, 2012, 09:34:40 pm

Title: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: sound maker on June 12, 2012, 09:34:40 pm
 So I got some wild rose shoots to make into arrows and for the last 2 weeks I been bending it a bit a few times but since I'm going to be going on campouts and stuff for the next few weeks I won't have enough time to bend it so I can I just get some rods or poles and just get them around them and use rubberbands to hold it in place and to help them get straight???
  Also those might be nooka rose.
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: bryan irwin on June 12, 2012, 10:03:31 pm
bundle them together and let them dry then you can work them later.
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: Pat B on June 13, 2012, 09:31:36 pm
Do like Bryan said.    Also, take them along camping. You can work on them sitting around the camp fire in the evenings.  ;)
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: Carson (CMB) on June 14, 2012, 04:05:41 am
Not sure if you have used heat yet, but nootka rose takes heat straightening very well.  Campouts are great for this because hot coals provide good even heat.  Just put a few coals in a metal pit, or if the fire allows, just sweep a pile of coals towards the edge of the fire ring...perfect arrow straightening set-up. 
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: bowtarist on June 15, 2012, 11:47:53 pm
Do like Bryan said.    Also, take them along camping. You can work on them sitting around the camp fire in the evenings.  ;)

2Thumbs Up on that. dpg
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 16, 2012, 09:30:39 am
I gathered a bunch of these in early spring. They are more than dry now but I cant find a spine over maybe 35-40# in the batch, even the fat ones.
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: Pat B on June 16, 2012, 10:30:03 am
Are you guys picking shoots that are mature enough to make arrows with? If the shoots you cut only had leaves on them and no small twigs then they are first year growth and not appropriate for arrows.
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: crooketarrow on June 16, 2012, 10:44:14 am
  Wild rose is on the light side also rose takes longer to season than other shoots. So wait a month longer that you do one others. I season mine for 6 months. I'm sure you can do it in shorter time. But I'm a little slow about everything exspecially bows and arrows.
  Where I see on here where people make their bows in weeks takes me months sometimes. There 's no hurry and hurrying can only bring bad things when it comes to bow's. So if theres no time limit on someones bow
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: crooketarrow on June 16, 2012, 10:49:54 am
 I don't hurry. Besides the more (different times) you look at a bow the more you see what needs to be done. I use'lly have a couple bows going at any given time and just take a look at them everytime I go to my shop. This way you see things you've never seen when building straight through.
  How many times have you looked and used a favoret bow only to say after a while wish I'd did this or did that. Now it a lot of work to go back and fix it the way you want.
  THERE'S NO HURRY SLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW DOWNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
 Just my way of building bows.
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: sound maker on June 18, 2012, 03:29:38 am
well I got just back from the campout (no I didn't bring them, needed the room and didn't really have time to do that) and I plan on going slowly, most likely going to bend it some more for the next few weeks then maybe debark some and if they don't check do the others. and yes I did get the ones that were growing things other then flowers and leaves, I know this buc they kept poking me in the face as I was cutting them down.
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: Sparrow on June 18, 2012, 05:11:33 pm
I've got rose shoots that I cut 12 years ago,still got the thorns on them.I've got shoots I cut last week,just keep cutting and drying.The older they are,the better a shaft they make has been my experience.  '  Frank
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: CherokeeKC on June 19, 2012, 08:43:20 am
Sound maker when you go to debark the shoots leave and inch or two of bark on each end.  This will help prevent checking
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: sound maker on June 19, 2012, 10:16:42 pm
I plan on to do that cherokeeKC. I was reading up on this for awhile before I got it and just wanted to get get some more tips so I don't do anything bad.
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: crooketarrow on June 21, 2012, 10:01:14 am
  I never debark untill seasoned this ilimitates checking.
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: randman on June 21, 2012, 03:52:27 pm
Soundmaker, I use a small alcohol lamp and roll the area to be straightened back and forth through the flame to heat, then bend to straighten. A candle or a can of sterno would work also. It doesn't take much heat and a heat gun is way too noisy. Gotta be careful with the alcohol lamp though. They have a sorta rounded bottom on them and If it tips over and the alcohol leaks out while it's lit, it'll go up in flames (don't ask how I know)
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: sound maker on June 22, 2012, 11:18:20 pm
 randman: I know that  though I found out when I was doing some penny stoves. I might just do that but with something like the penny stoves though its denature alcohol but since its used to cook food I should be ok.
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: CherokeeKC on June 26, 2012, 10:38:36 pm
a camping single burner propane stove works well also to spread the heat out over the shaft
Title: Re: wild rose shoot arrows
Post by: sound maker on June 27, 2012, 12:32:13 pm
o I got that but I got more camping 2 stove  then we know what to do with.