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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Justin Snyder on August 23, 2007, 03:21:32 pm
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This is a little project I have been playing around with. It is a sinew back, hickory core, Ipe belly 36" NTN. The bow sinew is leg sinew and the string is backstrap sinew, both harvested from roadkill mule deer. The hickory core is a tiny scrap that was given to me by Pat B to play with. The Ipe was given to me by Chris Parker (minuteman) and is a sticker from a pallet of deck material. The finish is hide glue with potash, blood and some mineral in it. The mineral and the blood added the color and combined with the potash it is insoluble. The handle wrap is rabbit fur I had lying around. The crows feet and the feather on the arrow are from a road kill crow. The cane is from Kowechobe, so it naturally got a Seminole one fletch. The point is an obsidian point that didn't make the grade for some arrow I made a while back. I call it "Scrappy Little Bow" because it is made from scraps and because it pulls 42# at 20". I hope you enjoy it. I know I sure enjoyed making it. The last picture is side profile right after being drawn to 20 and shot 5 times, then unbraced. I will try to get a picture of it on a tillering tree tonight. Justin
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Cool little bow. Looks like you might be able to squeeze a couple more inches of draw out of it. How do you attach the string? Make a loop on one end and tie the other on? What kind of nocks?
It must take you hours to get anywhere, what with all the stops to pick up dead varmint parts.
I like that by the way, my wife made me a roadkill kit for every vehicle I own.
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SWEET! I love it, it looks like a real shooter :). Love those little bows that can draw more than half their length ;D!!! And that arrow looks excellent as well :).
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Very cool bow! I love the finish you put on it. And btw, looks like you have the exact same floor tiles as me :)
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Challenging little jobby. I have been foolin with a similar idea for sinew and and ipe belly to allow good compression stringth for a shorter bow, but I was toing to go THAT short. Excellentay
Dave
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Excellent bow Justin! ;) Crap! now I have another project added to my list. ;D
What kind of distance are you getting with the cane arrow. Would, or will, you hunt with it? Pat
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OOPS, I forgot to get all the dimensions. I just remeasured it. I forgot I had to cut the ipe to fit the hickory. It is actually 34 1/2" tip to tip, and 33 1/2" NTN. it is 7/8" wide at the handle and 5/8" wide at the tips. It is barely 1/2" thick at the handle and 3/8" thick at midlimb. The nocks are pin nocks wrapped in sinew. Justin
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way cool brother. way cool.
luv them d bows!
jamie2
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Thanks guys,
Lennie, I am a road kill scrounging fool. It takes all my willpower to pass up on the owls and hawks. I would really like to pick them up.
Kegan, I must admit I was a little scared to pull it to 20" at first. :-[
Dane, the finish is definitely one of the high points.
Dave, give it heck. I am amazed how short you can get.
Pat, I havent shot for distance yet. Yes I will be hunting coyote when I go calling. I might use it to knock a few coons out of the trees too. Do you recognize the little hickory scrap now. ;D
Justin
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Well now "WAR AXE"(Justin) so sorry ta tell ya yer talents are showin' thru ! ;D Your overall presentation is beautiful, the attention ta detail is wonderful. Ya tiller is excellent. What kinna string ? I think a NA hunter of ole' would be proud ta carry that on a hunt an because of the materials used it has much "puba." Hmm............ minerals , potash and blood ya must be talkin' ta NA'S! ;) About 15yds er so it will do the job on thin skinned game. Maybe like Lennie said ya can get a couple more " of draw outta it but I dont think ya need ta to do the job its supposed ta do. Horn next ? ;) ;D ;D......bob
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Justin, I have the sister to that hickory scrap! ;) Hopefully I can come close to this incredible little bow. ;) Pat
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Lennie, sorry I missed the question. Yes the string has a loop on one end and is tied on the other. The trick is getting it untied though. :D
Thanks Jamie2
Bob, as a matter of fact, I have been reading books by NA's and talking to some feller from Florida. ;) The string is backstrap sinew from roadkill mule deer. The drawin the picture is a little short, about 18". I was trying to time it with the timmer on the camera. The node in the cane arrow, just above my thumb on my bow hand is 21". When my kids get home, I will try to get a "FULL" draw picture. Horn... HMMMMMM... ;) ;D Justin
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Sorry there "WAR AXE" nature of ya string was in original post didnt see it guess eyes aint what we once >:(....bob
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Nice bow. I was just going to post a question as to whether anyone had simply backed Ipe with sinew. I have a plan to make a shorty with some spliced in recurves.
Pat
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yeah! cool bow!
frank
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Dang Justin that is one heck of a roadkill smorgashboard ;D
Awesome little bow and tiller looks great, now all ya need is some warpaint.
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Awesome bow! Jawge
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Neat little bow Justin!! Like the exotic mixture of parts ;D. Wish I could gather some of that road kill material but it's unlawful to take any part of a road kill deer here in TX - don't understand that. Guess if everyone that got their car totaled by a state owned deer would sue they might change the laws.
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I love the shorties. great bow, what a combination of neat stuff.
VB
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the kind words.
Cowboy, technically it isn't legal here either. But the game and fish don't mind as long as I don't take any horns, capes or meat. Those items are considered valuable, so you have to leave them in the ditch. ??? Justin
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What a neat little bow Justin. I love the story behind it!
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Very nice justin.It looks really small with a big guy like you shooting it.Love the grip and color.
Tiller looks good also. :) :)
Pappy
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justin I was thinking that bow would just about fit me at full draw. ;D ;D ;D :D nice bow.
Pappy
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Nice bow
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I believe here in Michigan yer supposed to get a permit to pick up road kill, but I've never heard of anyone
getting ticketed for doing so. And I know folks that pick the whole deer up if its fresh-free meat ya know.
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I'm impressed Justin...as big a guy as you are I would have expected a 7' bow instead of a 3' one. Those crow feet look like they're ready to clamp down on whatever gets to close! ;D
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killer little bow for a turkey blind.
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justin, like greg, i'm impressed too, but more so with the ingredients and the workmanship. beautiful set.
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awesome friggin bow.have ya tried usin a modified pinch draw. them little bows shoot great with it
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And I thought that I was the only one to pick up road kills. Glad to know that I'm not. :D Really nice looking bow. I've gotten a deer that was hit by a car. Happened just befor I got there. Asked the policeman iffn I could have it and he said it was ok. ;)
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Thanks guys. It is a little on the short side for me. It was too short to make a walking stick, so naturally I had to make a bow.
Pappy, isn't that your regular draw length. ;)
Jamie, I have been working on a modified pinch grip, but it takes some getting used to. ;D Justin
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Ya thats about right ,maybe a little long. ;D
Pappy
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Looks like a good brush bottom bow for riparian whitetails. Pretty cool. It'll wind up as part of the list for August Backed Bow of the Month.
As soon as I quit goofing off up here in Alaska, that is.
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Goofing off??? That looks like some serious business to me. Looks like you are doing a good job of it too. Enjoy your vacation, you will be back soon enough. Justin
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Can't believe I missed this thread.. :o Perfect bow for slaying from horseback. Justin I agree you make that bow look even smaller than it is..Looks like a good combo for that low humidity which is rather prevalent where you live.
I'm quite sure ipe/sinew will become a popular combination.
Nice fish Oldbow..did you throw it back? ;)
Rich
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Yes we are definitely dry. Sometimes I wonder if we could be having a down pour and still be 15% humidity. I might try again with just the Ipe. I think I will put more sinew on the next one if I do. I think 3-4 layers would be appropriate. Justin
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Hi Justin, I just noticed this post. You sure got a lot of replies. I like sinewed bows in general and it looks like yours is a real killer.
Ron
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Sweet lil'bow Justin.....Brian
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Ron, I sure hope your prediction is right. ;D
Brian, I'm glad you like it. It sure was fun to make. Justin
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Hey Old bow, your grinnin like your holdin your next best bow ;D. What kind of Salmon you got there?
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Justin, neat bow. I've been wanting to make something like that for a while, just haven't gotten to it. Tell me your gonna hunt with it some.
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Justin - just outa curiosity. You said you had trouble using TB3 to bond hide or sinew to the back of a bow - what happened?
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Matt, thanks, and yes I do plan on hunting with it.
Cowboy, I don't recall that, are you sure it was me. ??? Justin
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Hmm? I sure thought it was you, guess not though if you don't remember ???. I was just asking couse I have yet to make any hide glue but have lot's of TB3 - didn't want to get too far with it in case it wasn't going to work.
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After reading and studying all the info I could find on hide glue and how it gels then dries, I really believe you are loosing a lot of benefits of a sinew backed bow by using TB3. If you are in a hurry and don't have the hide glue, I would certainly recommend the Knox gelatin before the TB. ;D Justin
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Now that is short(and snappy).Great little bow Justin.
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Thanks for the glue tip Justin! I know I've read it hear a thousand times on different glues and stuff, but so many things to remember when you haven't tried things for yourself. I'll see if I can't locate some of that Knox somewhere.
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Thanks guys, I'm glad you like the bow. Justin
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Great lookin bow, how ever it is a little hard tosee past the glare offin your noggin.Hope you make a big kill with that little bow!Auggie.
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Well look what the cat dragged in. I'm sureprised he didn't bury you. ;D Thanks Auggie, I hope to make a big kill with it too. Justin
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Ya'll be nice ;D....Brian
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justin be nice ??? ??? ;)
Pappy
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Justin
I hadn't noticed that you had backed it with sinew. Did you reflex the bow when you did that? That IPE must be working that sinew really well :)
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Pappy, I'm always nice. ;);D
Marc, I didn't reflex it at all. This is actually my first sinew backed bow. Up until now I have only used sinew to patch stuff and when I was testing glues. Trapper gave me all kinds of info on sinew backing bows. I was just building this bow for practical experience. I'm going to make a sinew backed Ipe next, but it will be a little longer. Justin
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You get more work out of sinew if you reflex it some, even if it's just a couple inches
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I was under the impression it would take some reflex as the sinew dried. I think the Ipe will maintain its profile no matter what. :-\ I will add reflex to the next one, but I will also add more sinew. Justin