Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Pat B on March 24, 2012, 12:54:10 am

Title: The Hunger Game
Post by: Pat B on March 24, 2012, 12:54:10 am
   Marcia(my wife) and I were talking just this evening about how much archery has been in the media lately. I love it! 
    I guess we will be getting lots of young folks(maybe some oldies too) wanting to know how to make a "Hunger Game" bow. This is cool! With a little thoughtfulness on our part we can give Primitive Archer Magazine and our website a real boost.  8)  We might get the opportunity to teach a portion of these newly enthused archers how to build enexpensive but effective bows.  8)
  Traditional archery has been on an upswing for a while now and primitive archery seems to be one of the fastest growing aspect of the traditional archery movement. The more the merrier as far as I'm concerned. Keeping a positive attitude about "our" love of archery will boost the interest. The more interest in primitive archery, the more interest in Primitive Archer! ...and that is COOL!
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Sparrow on March 24, 2012, 01:17:49 am
 Yep !  '  Frank
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: jonathan creason on March 24, 2012, 04:33:30 pm
I've already seen on other sites where people are saying their kids are interested in archery because of the movie.  I think it's great, strike while the iron is hot.

A friend of mine is in the movie, by the way.  Teaching archery, no less, from what I hear.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Pat B on March 24, 2012, 06:46:33 pm
They filmed part of it here at the Dupont State Forest.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 24, 2012, 07:29:25 pm
Has anyone read the sequels or know the story line of the sequels very well?  Are there any scenes where large quantities of arrows are being used?

Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: birdpointlightstring32 on March 24, 2012, 07:40:02 pm
I agree archery has been in movies more and more it seems. I was watching Thor and a compound bow was used while guarding the hammer as a last resort.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: osage outlaw on March 24, 2012, 09:09:09 pm
Has anyone read the sequels or know the story line of the sequels very well?  Are there any scenes where large quantities of arrows are being used?

My wife and kids have read the books.  I'll ask them.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: criveraville on March 25, 2012, 02:16:45 am
My wife and I tried to go watch it tonight, but it was sold out. I don't know much about the books or the movie. Is the movie any good?

Great idea Pat to piggy back some on all the hype the movie is generating in regard to Primitive Archery.

Cipriano
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: osage outlaw on March 25, 2012, 03:02:24 am
I heard that John Scifres from TG made the bows for the movie.  Don't know if that's true or not.  I read it on a hunting indiana forum.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: coaster500 on March 25, 2012, 03:46:12 pm
Probably one of the best looking bows and arrows I've seen used in a movie for a long time.

Her form leaves something to be desired but cool lookin equipment!!

Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Kolton on March 25, 2012, 04:27:17 pm
My wife and I tried to go watch it tonight, but it was sold out. I don't know much about the books or the movie. Is the movie any good?

Great idea Pat to piggy back some on all the hype the movie is generating in regard to Primitive Archery.

Cipriano
i saw a trailer for the movie it looked really cool

   Kolton
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Parnell on March 25, 2012, 05:54:25 pm
Crazy popular books with the high school kids.(I'm a high school science teacher)
I started reading the first one for a few minutes when it was sitting in my room.  I looked at the trailers and thought it looked pretty silly, though.
Be curious to hear tomorrow what the students thought of the movie...
I've already had a boat-load of students want me to teach them to make a bow.  It's a little funny, legally.  Not quite sure what to do.  Wouldn't it be great if you could trust people to not blame you for accidents, if they happened?   ::)
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: mullet on March 25, 2012, 05:58:15 pm
What is the "Hunger Games"? I take it from the post it's a movie? What's it about?
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: hatcha on March 25, 2012, 06:10:31 pm
Has anyone read the sequels or know the story line of the sequels very well?  Are there any scenes where large quantities of arrows are being used?

Finishing the third book at the monent - about 40 pages or so from the end.  The books are VERY good!!  I agree with the quote by Stephen King - "...couldn't put it down..."

First book had that affect on me and the others only increased it!

My wife read them before me (technically, we've both read all three books inside a week) so we had low expectations for the film adaptation of the first book.

Nothing prepared us for the butcher job that played out before us.

My wife and I tried to go watch it tonight, but it was sold out. I don't know much about the books or the movie. Is the movie any good?

Great idea Pat to piggy back some on all the hype the movie is generating in regard to Primitive Archery.

Cipriano

My advice to anyone interested in the notion of The Hunger Games...  Spend your money on the books, not the cinema.  But each to their own.

Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Newindian on April 03, 2012, 12:07:31 am
The books are better than the movie ( as always) but I would say they compliment each other. I remember hearing that they where getting young people intrested especially girls, saw a few girls that wanted a bow in acadamy about a week after it came out.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Mechslasher on April 03, 2012, 09:20:22 am
haven't read the books, but the movie was not very impressive.  i could see some potential, but they didn't pull it off.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 03, 2012, 06:51:46 pm
I broke down and bought the book.  I meant to use it as something to read while relaxing before bed.  About 3:30 a.m. I finished it. 

There are a few themes in there meant to appeal to the age group:
1) I am an individual and you can't take that from me.
2) Authority abused is an authority to be opposed.
3) Fear of being removed from those I love.

And then one theme underneath all the rest that quietly teaches a great lesson all young need to learn:  It is adversity that makes you stronger. 

Yeah, not exactly great literature but a ripping good adventure for sure. 
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Tortoise on April 07, 2012, 06:53:45 am
I read the whole trilogy, things get a lot better in the third book  :P  Anyway, which bow are you thinking of? I just saw the movie today and there were two bows, the one used in the games & training looked like metal to me. The arrows were very cool also.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Pat B on April 07, 2012, 03:55:26 pm
I think John Scifries from TG made the bows fro the Hunger Game.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 07, 2012, 04:09:43 pm
I'm working on a hickory version of the "real bow" that Katniss used for hunting. 

It appears to be fairly narrow limbed just out of the fades, straight taper toward the tips, then a bit of an "eiffel tower" lever out on the ends that does not bend. 

Am I seeing this correctly? 

(I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'll betcha ten to one that the bow makes the cool "creaky leather saddle" sounds when pulled.  Man, I wish I knew how to make bows make that sound!   >:D)
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: swamp monkey on April 07, 2012, 10:21:18 pm
I read the books and the bow is used in all three books.  My children and their friends (teens and pre-teens) all loved the movie.  I saw it and thought they did a good job of adapting the book to film.  However, the book is always better!. 

After seeing the bow that her dad was supposed to have made (the one she hunts with in the beginning) I want to make one like that for my daughter. 
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: johnston on April 08, 2012, 11:07:37 am
There was a "reading" thread on here a while back and I mentioned the Hunger Games as a good
read. The sequels are entertaining as well. And, I really enjoyed the movie.

It seemed to me the media tried to point out and demean the concept of teens killing teens and
there was a lot of talk about whether the movie made villains out of the Red People or the Blue
People. Was happy to see that for once, the talking heads couldn't get any traction.

Lane
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Carson (CMB) on April 10, 2012, 02:18:01 pm
Pat, I totally agree. I posted a listing on craigslist offering archery lessons at Washington Park, a nice city park archery range, near me.  Unfortunately, I have had only scammers reply so far.  I am sure there are kids out there wanting to learn archery after this movie.  I also take my new bows up to the local park to shoot arrows into a steep hillside.  It usually draws lots of positive attention.  I am not sure it is legal, but I will risk just for the sake of kids getting to see some arrows fly.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: doggonemess on April 10, 2012, 03:14:45 pm
The way I sum up "The Hunger Games" to people who haven't read it is this:

It's the books "The Running Man" mixed with "1984" with a little bit of "The Long Walk" with the contestant elimination / alliance style game play of the show "Survivor".

They are young adult books, but read fast and are very interesting and well thought-out. I haven't seem the movie, but would recommend the books.
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: soy on April 14, 2012, 03:33:15 am
I have not seen it but my friend and his daughter did and they want one of each so i guess id better see it so i can get some made to bring a couple more into the light ;)
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Carson (CMB) on April 14, 2012, 05:05:34 am
Well, I haven't read the books or seen the movie, but I also have noticed the Hollywood spotlight shining on the bow and arrow as of late.   Let's face it, the silver screen has always played a part in generating interest in archery...Art young hunts, Errol Flynn in Robin Hood, Fred Bear adventures, and even Deliverance.  I agree with Pat that we should seize the opportunity to teach those looking to learn about archery.

I am pretty stoked because my craigslist ad for archery lessons, led to my first student today (attached  pic). Her form isn't bad for only having a couple of dozen arrows under her belt.  Must be her coach ;)  And 5 more adults scheduled for Sunday! 

Spread the disease of toxophilia!  Or maybe spread the love of archery would be a better slogan, but Toxophilia is spreading would be a cool t-shirt, right?  Ok, it is decided I am making that t-shirt.  Anybody interested?  It will be black with white lettering on the front, and a nice simple longbow at brace on the back.  Suggestions on  design are welcome. 
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 16, 2012, 07:26:15 pm
Hmmm, is this the beginning of a grassroots conspiracy to overthrow the industrialized wheelie bows?
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Carson (CMB) on April 16, 2012, 11:31:40 pm
People everywhere a re reeling for simplification, the timing is perfect, the wheelies will be overtaken!!!!  >:D

Here is a pic from yesterday's group.  One student even made a music video of the lesson and posted it on facebook!  8)
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150644323991524&set=t.652485737&type=3
Facebook and craigslist are our allies in this movement!   

The neatest thing was that the majority of this group decided they liked the primitive bows best, even after shooting fiberglass recurves that were 20-40 fps faster, and watching one of their friends in the group driving tacks with an older compound. And the first student I had the other day was describing very honestly why she wanted to shoot a "real" bow rather than a technological contraption....while we were shooting next to a guy with a nice compound.  I know he heard her because his grouping suddenly fell apart that round.   ;D
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: johnston on April 18, 2012, 11:28:08 pm
I want me one of those Tee shirts. PM for money.
I am impressed with the classes. Good job.

Lane
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: fishfinder401 on April 19, 2012, 12:49:56 am
I want me one of those Tee shirts. PM for money.
I am impressed with the classes. Good job.

Lane
i second that ;D
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Carson (CMB) on May 07, 2012, 11:42:14 am
I am still working on the t-shirt thing.  I was thinking cafepress (online custom t-shirts) might be the way to go.  But I am checking with a couple of local businesses to see what a small run of shirts would cost. 
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: sadiejane on May 07, 2012, 12:32:24 pm
the three kids in my hood whom hang out over here sometimes, have all read the hunger games series.
two of them( bro and sis, 8 and 10) have old fiberglass kids bows i picked up at flea markets last year and since reading they have been out back shooting em more.
the third(10 yr old girl) either borrows one of theirs or as of this past weekend, has been shooting a sweet little bow half eye sent me.
from half eye-
"Hackberry stave with angular knot dead center,[carved in the Menominee Native style)"
its painted green with red, yellow and black highlights.
sweet little bow and the kids all enjoyed shooting it.
they can all pull it to about 20"
(right now the bow half eye sent is a "loaner" till i can get real wood bows in all three of their hands)
we worked on some "form" on sat and crawled in outta the rain and worked on some arrows sun.
theres an old tire swing in the lot they enjoy trying to shoot thru.
and of course water balloons rolling around in the grass is another of their fav targets

yes, these books/movie have certainly ignited a resurgence of interest in archery. esp for youngsters.
now all we have to do is keep fanning that flame
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: Dclarke on May 07, 2012, 12:35:42 pm
I would be interested in a shirt or two...  ::)
Title: Re: The Hunger Game
Post by: sadiejane on May 07, 2012, 12:36:21 pm
I am still working on the t-shirt thing.  I was thinking cafepress (online custom t-shirts) might be the way to go.  But I am checking with a couple of local businesses to see what a small run of shirts would cost.

do you have an community arts center or arts magnet school in yr area?
or even a local high school with a good art program.
if so it might be a class project.
i have done t-shirts that way and its lots of fun to work with the students(even let them come up with designs)
and thrift stores often have plenty of clean, unprinted tees-ya just gotta go thru em good.
and you learn how to screen print
ya might even garner some serious interest in primitive archery