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Title: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Blacktail on March 16, 2012, 11:07:29 pm
all right...there is a guy that i go to church with and he would like a bow made by me....and that is great...BUT,the guy is 6,1-6,4 tall and i don't know what draw length to shoot for...i was thinking 28 but i don't know if that would be even safe....the wood i am using will be dogwood...i cant wait to get cracking....john
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: missilemaster on March 16, 2012, 11:11:54 pm
Simple!! Ask his perferred draw weight and measure his draw length.
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Post by: beetlebailey1977 on March 16, 2012, 11:32:20 pm
I am 6' 1" and have a 30" draw.  So he could be at least that.  Depends on his arm length.  Measure his wingspan then figure it.
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: okie64 on March 16, 2012, 11:55:04 pm
Wingspan divided by 2.5 will get you real close. I have a friend who is 7'1" and has a 35" draw who asked me to build him a bow a while back and I told him id have to study on it for a while.
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: bubby on March 17, 2012, 12:06:35 am
i'm 6'3" and draw 29"
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: bubby on March 17, 2012, 12:07:39 am
I am 6' 1" and have a 30" draw.  So he could be at least that.  Depends on his arm length.  Measure his wingspan then figure it.
yeah, do his knuckles drag the ground? >:D, Bub
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Pat B on March 17, 2012, 12:17:13 am
His style of shooting can dictate his draw length also. I'm 5'8" and draw 26" but if I used an olympic style of shooting I would draw at least 28". Instead I use the G. Fred Asbel style of instinctive shooting which is a more fluid style.
 You could take him shootring and when he is comfortable with shooting a bow measure his draw length.
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Post by: mitch on March 17, 2012, 03:01:06 am
well im 6' 3'' and my draw length is 31''  ;D
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Post by: Gordon on March 17, 2012, 03:15:10 am
John,

Most guys that tall are going to draw somewhere around 30".
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Blacktail on March 17, 2012, 03:19:56 am
thanks so much for the info....at least now i have some what to shoot for....30'' is the most i have done so this will be fun...
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Jude on March 17, 2012, 03:32:27 am
His style of shooting can dictate his draw length also. I'm 5'8" and draw 26" but if I used an Olympic style of shooting I would draw at least 28". Instead I use the G. Fred Asbel style of instinctive shooting which is a more fluid style.
 You could take him shootring and when he is comfortable with shooting a bow measure his draw length.

I'm 6'2" and I only draw 28" shooting instinctive style, but you should probably plan on a 30" draw, in case he uses a more upright, wide open style.  Compound shooters are usually taught that way, with the bow vertical to align the sight pins.  If you put an unstrung bow in his hand, with an arrow on the shelf and held to his anchor point, you can measure that as a starting point, and tiller the bow out to that measurement for safety.  In reality, the compression on his shoulders will take a couple inches of that measurement.  For example:  When I am measured that way, my draw is 30".  When I actually draw a 50# bow, my draw length measures 28".  When I make a bow for myself, I aim for 50# at 28", but I make sure to tiller it out to 30" for safety, in case I get excited and overdraw.  Hope this helps.

Julian
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Josh B on March 17, 2012, 04:19:57 am
Better check for sure and I mean actually measure. I got roped into building bows for a friend and his son.  My friend is 6'1" and draws 35".  His son is 6'3" and draws 36".  It's a challenge making bows for them.  Josh   
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: gstoneberg on March 17, 2012, 09:09:10 am
I have a 37# glass longbow I keep around just to measure people's draw length.  I put a full length arrow on the bow, have them close their eyes, draw and anchor.  Everybody can hold that bow at full draw.  I stick a piece of tape on the arrow at the bow back and then have them let down.  Works every time as their real draw length at heavier weights will be a little shorter.  I need to build a long rattan bow for that purpose.

George
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Del the cat on March 17, 2012, 09:43:43 am
Better check for sure and I mean actually measure. I got roped into building bows for a friend and his son.  My friend is 6'1" and draws 35".  His son is 6'3" and draws 36".  It's a challenge making bows for them.  Josh
Yeah right!
35"  :o My pet Orangutang can't even draw 35" ::)
Del
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 17, 2012, 10:57:17 am
Build it for a 32" draw and dont look back.  You cant buy production shafts any longer anyway.
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Post by: lesken2011 on March 17, 2012, 11:16:41 am
I'm 6'3" and have a 27" draw. A lot depends on your anchor and shooting style. If you a dealing with a new shooter, their anchor may change over time....mine did. I used to draw 28-29 in.  I would make him a very long bow with as long a draw length as possible, make him some 32 in arrows and monitor him over a few weeks of shooting. Once he has established a shooting style and consistent anchor, you can make changes in arrow length and spine. IMHO
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Josh B on March 17, 2012, 12:38:22 pm
Better check for sure and I mean actually measure. I got roped into building bows for a friend and his son.  My friend is 6'1" and draws 35".  His son is 6'3" and draws 36".  It's a challenge making bows for them.  Josh
Yeah right!
35"  :o My pet Orangutang can't even draw 35" ::)
Del

Are you calling me a liar Del? >:D
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: bubby on March 17, 2012, 02:20:06 pm
it all depends on their build, long arms thick upper body or thin and wirey, a thin guy with long arms has a long draw, measure it out, Bub
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: DRon knife on March 17, 2012, 03:28:35 pm
I'm 5'11" and draw 31"(ape...lol),you should get his measurements BT.
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Del the cat on March 17, 2012, 08:23:35 pm
Better check for sure and I mean actually measure. I got roped into building bows for a friend and his son.  My friend is 6'1" and draws 35".  His son is 6'3" and draws 36".  It's a challenge making bows for them.  Josh
Yeah right!
35"  :o My pet Orangutang can't even draw 35" ::)
Del

Are you calling me a liar Del?
Nope.
Just saying that many people (almost all, in my experience) think they draw further than they actually do in practice.
The rest is what we call 'humour' in the UK.
No offense intended.
Del
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Blacktail on March 17, 2012, 08:26:37 pm
LOL
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Josh B on March 17, 2012, 11:06:46 pm
No offense taken Del.  As it turns out, you were correct on all points.   :-[ I don't think he is drawing a bit over 33" if even that. I made the bow and arrow. The arrow is 35 1/2" long. What say you?  Josh
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: bubby on March 18, 2012, 12:50:46 am
look's like 33" to me Josh, Bub
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Post by: Gordon on March 18, 2012, 12:54:05 am
OMG!  :o
Title: Re: QUESTION ABOUT A BOW
Post by: Jude on March 18, 2012, 01:13:53 am
it all depends on their build, long arms thick upper body or thin and wirey, a thin guy with long arms has a long draw, measure it out, Bub

The funny thing about us humans, is that our wingspan is amost always about equal to our height.  You can have wide shoulders and short arms, or narrow shoulders and long arms, but the measurments tend to add up to your height in the end.

Doc, it looks to me like your customer anchors on the back of his jawline, plus he has a pretty straight up stance.  I've always anchored with the tip of my index finger at the corner of my mouth.