Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: jtbluefeather on February 26, 2012, 06:54:38 pm
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So, I'm a new bow maker. Done some red oak board bows, HBH, and tried a maple board bow before I knew there was a difference between hard and soft. (turns out the soft really explodes well at low draw weights) I've read about yew and osage orange being great bow woods, but had never seen any Osage until today. A buddy of mine did his first bow ever from an Osage stave and brought it to show me. Pretty rough around the edges, tiller was a bit wonky, but not bad for a first bow. But what surprised me the most was how the wood seemed to glow! He didn't even sand or finish that well, but still that wood seemed iridescent. It was like seeing a really pretty girl for the first time and getting an instant crush. Now I understand the draw, besides the "good bow making wood" properties. Pictures don't show that. Now... Where to get my hands on a stave??? Cause I just gotta have an Osage orange bow! :D (http://:D)
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The grain along the edges of the bow really do that iridescent thingy. It's much like tigerseye stone in that respect. I've always wanted to try making an osage bow from a quartersawn plank to take advantage of that effect.
I understand your crush, it's infectious stuff. You might be able to get over it if you never look at it again and avoid any physical contact. There is no help if you get a splinter in your skin....infection injection! Hooked for life.
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JW
Gary Davis made a bow last year from a stave that split a little strange ,he did it like quartered to the grain and yes it is electrifying ! !!
I hope he has it this year when I see him ,it will be interesting to see how it looks as it darkens up
Guy
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Osage is addictingv :) Sounds like you have the gold fever.
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how does that osage darkening work? :o I am new to osage as well and my fencepost i split last spring is pretty much lighting up the garage also.
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pretty sure it's just UV exposure that darkens the osage.
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does it happen even when you put something like spar varnish or polyurethane on?
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I know they will darken when finished with tru-oil. I have one that is 3 years old and it is really turning a beautiful burnt orange color.
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Yes even the stuff with uv inhibitors will still darken in time.
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Never seen the stuff in the flesh, one day.
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I'm lucky back when I started 21 years ago. I got into building bows in a big way. And cut tons of OSAGE with those and all I've cut through the years I have and have had 100's. Have sold ,traded, gave away made dozens of OSAGE BOWS. At one time I had 233 staves.
Osage dose have oils and resins that has different affects on people. I found out long ago that when filing and sanding my my eyes puffy.
I not sure why OSAGE gets darker with age. But I LOVE THAT BURNT ORANGE LOOK. Osage doesn't stain well unless you use leather dye (alcohol based). I only seal my bows with bee's wax and let nature take it's course. Through the years I used everything to finish osage bows. What ever you use on OSAGE still gets dark with age.
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I just finished and mail off my trade bow to Robustus. It was my first shot at Osage and putting that little bow in the mail was the toughest thing I've ever done. I live in California so Osage is an exotic for me. It's got some quirks and there was a learning curve for me but I love the stuff and have two more stave's roughed out. I need to make one for me:)
It is really unique, beautiful stuff!!
I just traded for some billets (want to try a two piece) ... find something to trade and post it here? I got some Yew that way also and used it for my TG trade bow.
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Coaster, that's the trick! I just don't have much to trade, and not much. Moola to buy. :'( someday though. :laugh:
Dwardo-don't look directly at the wood! It's instantly addicting!
I do live in an area thick with hickory and hop hornbeam, so maybe I'll stockpile some staves and see if I can trade a few to somebody who is local to osage.
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I do live in an area thick with hickory and hop hornbeam, so maybe I'll stockpile some staves and see if I can trade a few to somebody who is local to osage.
There ya go!
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Cut yourself some hop hornbeam and I will for sure trade you a year old osage stave for a green HHB stave. I've always wanted to try HHB. And, I love to help people get after osage for the first time. :)
George
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Where do you live?...if your in the u.s and have HHB in your area then your obviously in the eastern u.s.,and your prob not too far from some osage trees. Even if you have to take a two hour drive its worth it,and most folks will let you cut it if you ask nicely.
Where did your buddy get his stave?
Sounds like a good offer from george to me too to get ya going
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Cut yourself some hop hornbeam and I will for sure trade you a year old osage stave for a green HHB stave. I've always wanted to try HHB. And, I love to help people get after osage for the first time. :)
George
Hey George, you will love working on some HHB.
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It's funny, I grew up and live in south Kansas around huge populations of deer and osage orange trees. Most people just think od them as a pain in the a*# (yes, that includes the deer, not just the thorny trees). I had a moment of clarity about ten years ago and started harvesting both of them. Osage is truly a wood that it takes very little of to make a good bow. My uncle in Missouri wanted my father to bring him some for his well drilling rig. My father found a big timber from an old barn, probably close to a 100 years old. My uncle took it to the local saw mill to have it cut into planks. The saw mill operator said to never bring that type of wood again. I gues it ruined his saw blade. She's a little tough at times, but my crush for her has evolved into a full blown love afair. Good thing I have a wife who is willing to share.