Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Lee Slikkers on February 22, 2012, 10:06:27 pm
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OK folks, still not quite Bowfishing season here but I was hoping maybe we couple get a bunch of pics of what some of you use and have made that works well for you. (bows too)
Thanks!
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Lee,i don't have pics.i am a bowfishing fool.i stalk them on the river with no boat.nothing better than getting in there with them.one of the best things that i have bought for this is the traditional strap on mount made by great northern.you can by one on three rivers website.i put it on all of my bows.i use a spool type reel.nothing fancy,i hand line the fish in.no crank.hope this helps.get in there and get them,Steve
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i forgot to add.i did post a handmade cane shaft with fire hardened forshaft with bamboo skewer tined bowfishing arrow.it would be in the arrow thread.
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Steve, are you referring to the oak/bamboo points head or the sweet-a$$ gator bone head? Excellent stuff...I am a complete novice to bowfishing and am basically searching for any info/help/tips I can on this site on the subject.
Thanks!
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Lee i got this in a trade from prarie bowyer, them my son looked at it and went home and turned one on his lathe, i'm a novice bow fisher as well but that's gonna change this year, Bub(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Picture-10.jpg)
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Thanks Bub, that is the stuff I was hoping to see...
I don't have a lathe but my grandfather does I would imagine he'd give me a quick lesson and let me try my hand on it. I had some old larger Osage cut-offs that I was hoping to make a spool like that from but I just cut up some sections and they have drying/splits running through the entire length. Maybe if I hollow out the center section enough I could squeak by...have to look closer at them I guess.
Thanks again.
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you can allways glue up some pieces of scrap boards with tb3, or maybe pm prarie bowyer and maybe make a trade, Bub
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Prarie bowyer makes some sweet ones,and he's awesome to trade with!
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Lee,my head was the cane shaft with fire hardened oak foreshaft.used bamboo skewers for tines.i need me one of those nice turned spools.those are sweet.
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I was thinking of making spool from some of the big diameter bamboo we have here. also thinking of making fish points with bone.
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I was thinking of making spool from some of the big diameter bamboo we have here. also thinking of making fish points with bone.
Hey Bud!
I obviously don't have any boo here with a diameter like that in MI but I am thinking bone points myself...have a huge cow femur I air/sun dried last summer and an considering as a candidate.
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I could send you a piece of boo. I thought it would be cool to leave the node core and have that on the outside. Then sand it out a bit like the piece of wood someone showed on this thread. There are lots of buffalo bones kicking around where I get my horns. Horns scraps would make nice points too.
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That would be really cool bit I can't even imagine what the cost of shipping a chuck of boo here would run...
(Waterbuff) Horn, hmmm...wonder where on earth I could find a piece of that stuff? LOL...excellent (and pretty) idea!
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You can get 6" bamboo from the place I get rattan.
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I don't think a 3" wide piece with the node would run that much. Anyway I'll be coming home in June and could ship it from MN.
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My plans look a little like this. Possibly a shorter bow.
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The bone tip isn't finished. I'll bore a hole up the back side of it to fit the skinny shaft extension (which is filled with hidden spring steel). Then either set a short thin flake in it with no barb or just file it to a point and and the back on a curve. Bore a hole through the middle and make the toggle laynard like above. I used artificial sinew and a blend of flemish twist and traditional braiding to make the lanyard which I saturated in TB3. The triangular stone point will go into a piece of boo with epoxy and artificial sinew. I had a little razor sharp back barb flake to make it toggle also but I lost it. Probably droped it into my shoe.
Pluss I have the big pole spear like in the video I posted. I had the idea to try to make them in wood with a toggling stone point. Still need the surgical tubing for the activator.
The spool above. I used to go with the metal clips but I kept breaking them, cutting my self, breaking drill bits etc. Pluss they rust so I switched to plastic. Cheap, Easy, and no rust. I don't make the spools to make a mint. I want to facilitate carp murder. A few weeks ago I came up with a plan to clean up the insides more quickly and easier.. which means I can make them faster!
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I also make these:
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to do this:
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buffalo is our favorite.
big head Asian has an awesome texture a bit like wahoo but snow white like haddock, and meaty like Mahi. Smoked it's like a mild Mackeral. Grilled hot with mexican spices for tacos is my favorite but spices and the rest of the family don't get along.
Silver asian isn't as musky it seems. Your basic white fish. Great steamed or poached with garlic and white wine...or same as above.
common carp is a gamble to clean and eat. Some are great and some are all red meat. I grow tomotoes and peaches on them and then eat those.
Smoked Buffalo is AWESOME. Fillet like normal and trim the red meat. Soak a few hours in a zip bag with water brown sugar and salt. What ever spices you like, rinse or not and smoke. Flake apart and the bones come out easily. That way wastes less meat and is quicker than trying to be a samurai with a fillet knife.
Flaked meat is great with cream cheese and cracker, leftovers in an omlet, made into some sort of crab salad or fish cake is realy nice also.
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Wow, killer pics and entire setup! I'm glad you posted a pic of the spool mounted on the bow, I never would have guessed you shoot the arrow through the spool (duh on my part)
Thanks for the smoking recipe & tips, I think I will give this a real honest try this year.
How do you make those spear pole rigs? My 2 boys (11 & 9) are swimming fools and I bet they'd have a riot with a set of those!
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sorry if this video belong to someone on the forum.
Have a look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdO1Y30xoVs
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Well I was entirely too accademic and tried to beldn fiberglass and carbon fiber for mine.
I think the Gen 3 will be a wood shaft. Looking for a good water resistant coating. Thinking Epoxy.
I turned all the parts on my wood lathe. Basically I use a 3/8" solid fiberglass rod section about 18" Long or so. The I got on line to speedy metals and ordered some stainless. some pieces for the skinny bodkin tip and some tube that just needed to be barely drilled to go over the 3/8 fiberglass. The back shaft for me was either aluminum (aircraft) tube or fiberglass cased in carbon fiber. I thought about selling them. They are weight fwd and pretty light. Not that big a deal.
The tobble tip I bought from JBL. Oh I turned a stainless slug to goover the 3/8 and bored a 5/16 hold through the whole thing. Put the 5/16" bodkin with a cross pin in that. threaded th other end for the toggle tip.
Next one will be easier and cheaper. Wood back 2/3 and no need for the bodkin. JBL sells a "slip tip" for their polespear (which is only great for perch). So you only need a stainles bolt that protrudes from the front slug to atach their tip onto. Cheaper and better.
I like the fiberglas first 1/3" becasue it is more flexable under force. Big fish will take off with your spear in them and lever it. It absorbs some of the force so the shaft dosent bend. Also Asian carp have a head of solid bone... I bent my first spear shaft on a head shot. Spring steel on the bodkin shaft is a great idea but it rusts in the salt.
Google pole spear and you'll see how they are basically assembled. The power band is a section of surgical tubing with a nylon rope knot poked up inside and zip tied off.
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sorry if this video belong to someone on the forum.
Have a look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdO1Y30xoVs
I love this video. I watch it frequently and I think you can see the influence in my gear. ;) It's alittle like primitive bowfishing porn.
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Thanks for the detailed description PrairieBowyer...I'll have to see what I can come up with.
I did manage to get some cow femur cut up this morning and here is point #1 that I think I'll use on an Atlatl dart, might be a bit too heavy/large for a bowfishing arrow. The design is not my own, I "borrowed" it after seeing it another website.
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I have 3 more bone arrow heads cut out but need to file, shape and sharpen yet so I'll post those up when complete.
Cheers!
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That should do the trick !
Guy
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Nice point Lee! Look forward to seeing your catch!
Josh
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Decided to "rehooch" my original bone head a touch and added 3 more to the pile. Will be pitch/sinew hafting them on some Red Osier foreshafts tomorrow. Thanks for looking!
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Wicked looking bones Lee. Looking forward to seeing them shafted.
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i just have to say that this thread really inspired me to get off my butt and make some more arrows.i just ordered one of those beautiful turned reels.i have been using a boehning plastic reel with a strap on mount.those bone points you guys have been making really got me going.thank you everyone.it is almost time.thanks again,Steve
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NICE bone points! Where do you get the Cow femur? Don't say butcher cause I've checked with several... they don't come in cows anymore. Meat is grown on little styrofoam plates with celephane over it.
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the pet store PB,you can get'em at the pet store, Bub
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Seabass, glad you got inspired...where did you order your spool from? I hope you stick the scales hard this Spring >:D
PB, I did get my bone from my local butcher but he specializes in whole animal rendering and even has a rig that he uses to drive right to the home/farm and does the slaughter, butchering and wrapping of the critter so he can get me lots of large bone. Only problem is I only asked for this one bone to dry/bake in the sun last fall...sure as heck wish I would have grabbed a 1/2 dozen of them so I had more dry and seasoned stuff to use now. Oh well, live and learn I guess.
Good luck!
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Cheerio I guess I need to get out and do some bowfishing :laugh:
Cipriano
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the pet store PB,you can get'em at the pet store, Bub
The pet owners don't complain?