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Title: One in the works..nit-pick my tiller pls
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 29, 2012, 10:46:05 pm
The truth is I give away all of my best bows, one way or another. The eight or nine left  on my rack are not near my finest work, but shoot good. I finished up Ruddys bow for the TG trade and got cracking on a stave Matt Wiricki swapped me. Correct me if Im wrong Matt,  its an oldie from 1994-96 I think? The below pics are on the brink of floor tillering and still can be whatever I want in draw weight and draw length. Its 64" ttt prior to bending the 9" tips in. The limbs are 1 3/4" out 12" from the fades then straight taper to 3/4" for now. I plan on 7/16'ish when Im done. As it stands now it has about 4" of reflex. The veneers on the handle and tips are mesquite and osage lams about .060 thick each. Im not a fancy pants bow builder usually, but the stave was thin there and had to be built up. So I went all fancy on it :P!The stave is clean as a whistle and quite straight now. This one is staying on my rack when she is done! Its JUST FOR ME! this time!......................................................................or maybe I should just set it aside to be finished for my PA swap bow......hmmmmm.......??????? What do you guys thinks I should do? Sure is a fine blank just sitting there hollaring to be finished.

Title: Re: One in the works..just for me!!
Post by: Bevan R. on January 29, 2012, 10:49:47 pm
I vote to make it for yourself.
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Post by: Slackbunny on January 29, 2012, 10:52:20 pm
I really like the way you made the riser. I may have to try that myself sometime.
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Post by: beetlebailey1977 on January 29, 2012, 11:25:28 pm
I say keep for yourself bud.....
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Post by: Lone500 on January 29, 2012, 11:28:35 pm
Get that beautiful looking piece of wood to shooting!
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Post by: osage outlaw on January 29, 2012, 11:35:58 pm
Keep it.  You deserve a good shooter.
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Post by: Tortoise on January 30, 2012, 12:10:57 am
Give it to me  >:D Nah, keep it for yourself, looks great.
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Post by: Pat B on January 30, 2012, 12:47:14 am
I'd say keep it for yourself. You might as well enjoy some of your own work...before you give it away!  ;D
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Post by: bubby on January 30, 2012, 04:15:13 am
I say keep it and shoot the crap outta it, till ya build another one you want to keep and need to make room in the rack >:D, Bub
Title: Re: One in the works..just for me!!
Post by: Pappy on January 30, 2012, 07:36:54 am
I do the same thing Pearl, I have started trying to keep at least on good shooter a
year for me. Keep it. :) Nice looking start. :)
  Pappy
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Post by: paulsemp on January 30, 2012, 07:40:33 am
I do the same, and on top of that i never finish my own?
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Post by: blackhawk on January 30, 2012, 08:50:13 am
I say get her bending and firing asap...and if it shoots like a dream for you then keep it,but if there's some lil nuance that bothers you then give her away.
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Post by: broketooth on January 30, 2012, 09:02:08 am
lookin good pd.you dont mess around. i dont understand how you build bows so fast.  rv
Title: Re: One in the works..just for me!!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 30, 2012, 11:20:08 am
Good hand tools and good dry wood Ruddy.  So what is it?  A recurve or a flipped tipper? Or a reflipped bow?
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Post by: DRon knife on January 30, 2012, 11:51:40 am
Geesh that's a purty bow...If ya just can't keep it I know a guy who will take it off your hands!
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Post by: half eye on January 30, 2012, 12:16:39 pm
I'm Just like you on the give-away thing....working on making myself a small collection right now.....ya may want to keep a good one for yourself (just once 8)) fine lookin start by the way.
rich
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Post by: artcher1 on January 30, 2012, 12:27:01 pm
You can keep that one Pearly cause I like 'em with a cut-in shelves ;)...........Art
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Post by: Sidewinder on January 30, 2012, 01:19:13 pm
 I think a guy needs to keep at least one really good shooter he has made but I understand giving them all away. I was impressed with the number of responses that say they give away most of theirs too. I currently only have 1 bow thats made by me and I recently finished that one ( 1 mth ago).Time will tell if it remains in my possesion.  I have given away everyone I have made with the exception of the first and that one will never leave me. Its been retired to the wall.  Danny
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Post by: Del the cat on January 30, 2012, 01:30:03 pm
Yeah, it's easy to find that other people have all your best work. Gotta keep a couple of your finest.
Del
Title: Re: One in the works..just for me!!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 30, 2012, 02:07:51 pm
Once it became "easier" to build bows it was easier to give them away. You realize, "hey I can build ten more just like it, just give the damn thing to him!". I dont keep track or count of what I build or where they all go, but Im guessing I will eclipse 100 bows this year. I cant even imagine where I would store them all had I not given them away. It was refreshing seeing all the other folks giving theirs away and telling me to keep this one, I think I will do just that!
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Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 30, 2012, 03:59:39 pm
 >:( Hey I thought that one was for Me !! ;) ;D
Title: Re: One in the works..just for me!!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 30, 2012, 04:17:56 pm
I gave you a bow in "kit form" Guy........remember?
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Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 30, 2012, 05:20:57 pm
Some of the pieces seem to be missing ! ;)
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Post by: Josh B on January 30, 2012, 06:43:44 pm
I gave you a bow in "kit form" Guy........remember?



Now that's funny!  I don't care who you are!    Josh
Title: Re: One in the works..just for me!!
Post by: stringstretcher on January 30, 2012, 08:51:38 pm
Well you need to get one sent my way.....lol  Great looking bow as usual Pearl
Title: Re: One in the works..just for me!!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 30, 2012, 09:59:31 pm
Thanks Charlie! Somebody in this years swap is going to regret telling me to keep this one for myself! I got the tips done and its tillered to a low brace. WOW she is going to be a stunner if she holds strong.
Title: Re: One in the works..just for me!!
Post by: Del the cat on January 31, 2012, 11:08:47 am
... but Im guessing I will eclipse 100 bows this year.
Hang on, that's one bow every 3 1/2 days.
You obviously need some trickier staves  >:D.
Del
Title: Re: One in the works..just for me!!
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 31, 2012, 11:26:33 am
Good for you, PD. Unless I gift a bow to a friend or family member all my bows are for me. :) Jawge
Title: Re: One in the works..just for me!!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 31, 2012, 12:14:10 pm
... but Im guessing I will eclipse 100 bows this year.
Hang on, that's one bow every 3 1/2 days.
You obviously need some trickier staves  >:D.
Del

Not 100 in a year Del, just my 100th bow total. 
Title: Re: One in the works..few more pics!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 31, 2012, 09:18:27 pm
I added a few more pics. The drawn pic is 40# @ 20". Thats exactly where I like to be when Im shooting for 50-52# bows. I havent drawn it beyond 20" yet. I havent drawn it past 40# so far either. I like super baby'ing bows until I think my tiller is cool, Im getting close to a cool tiller now. The tip pic stinks, our 1/2 mp camera doesnt like getting closer than 3 feet!
Title: Re: One in the works..few more pics!
Post by: artcher1 on January 31, 2012, 09:37:05 pm
Looking good Pearly, so don't screw things up now >:D! Bet you keep that one. Some you just don't give away.
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Post by: paulsemp on January 31, 2012, 09:39:17 pm
Looking really good, I love that style. Tillering is on it's way to perfection.
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Post by: Keenan on February 01, 2012, 12:41:11 am
Great looking bow. Once in a while you got to keep one for your reward. Looks like a keeper!
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Post by: blackhawk on February 01, 2012, 08:18:28 am
Awe come on ya wuss...pull that thing back more.... ;)  40lbers are for wussy's :laugh:
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Post by: Rick Wallace on February 01, 2012, 08:41:58 am
looks like sumphin wrong,,better send it to me so i can fix it,,,,,,,, ::) ::)
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Post by: Pappy on February 01, 2012, 09:26:03 am
Looking very good,that should be a nice one, looks a whole lot like a shooter and keeper to me. :) :)I was thinking the same thing Del,he is a machine that looks like a man.  ;) ;D ;D
   Pappy     
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Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 01, 2012, 11:13:29 am
That is a beauty, PD. Looking good. Jawge
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 01, 2012, 11:15:49 am
Its official. I have a 53# @ 28" healthy, baby bow. I shot it last night 30-40 times, she is a super screamer with a 10 skinny string on it. Wowser. I still have 3" plus of reflex. I will post some finish pics in the coming days.
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Post by: osage outlaw on February 01, 2012, 02:37:14 pm
I really like the tips and handle work on it.  Can't wait to see the finished pics.  I bet she's a beauty.
Title: Re: One in the works..nit-pick my tiller pls
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 01, 2012, 07:45:54 pm
Here are the stats. The bow is 63 1/2" ntn, 64" ttt. Its 1 3/4" wide out 12" from the fades. It gradually narrows from there to 1/2" tips, they  are flipped the last 9" of limb. Besides the unusally stiff lower limb....do you see any other flaws taht my eyes dont...BE HONEST? The extra stiff lower limb is intentional. After seeing every one of my bows take a little extra set in the lower limb, I changed my tune. I will go a 1/4" positive at times.  3/16" is common. Thanks for the eyes. The pics are different, but look the same.
Title: Re: One in the works..nit-pick my tiller pls
Post by: Bevan R. on February 01, 2012, 07:53:39 pm
Could be my bad eyes, but it seems to me the top limb has a really nice smooth arc, while the lower limb goes curve-straight-curve-straight. Kind of 'stepy'. As I said, it could be my eyes looking at a small image.
I am not talking about a stiffness in the lower limb, it just does not seem to 'flow' in a smooth arc.
Title: Re: One in the works..nit-pick my tiller pls
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 01, 2012, 07:55:42 pm
The back is quite wavy right where your talking Bevan. Those eyes still work good!
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Post by: Bevan R. on February 01, 2012, 07:57:28 pm
OK, then I would say 'shoot the snot out of it' as someone else said on here.

(or start chasing a ring. you should have a name before long)
Title: Re: One in the works..nit-pick my tiller pls
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 01, 2012, 08:00:12 pm
My ring chasing never ends buddy. I hope I never get that "name" you speak off.
Title: Re: One in the works..nit-pick my tiller pls
Post by: artcher1 on February 01, 2012, 08:47:01 pm
How does it feel at full draw Pearly. Feeling even limb strain? That's the important thing.

I've always maintained that it's not so much about making the lower limb stronger, but rather where. And that is the lower fade area. So if you do any more work on the lower limb do so closer to mid-limb.

Another thing, upright shooters as yourself do require greater positive tiller over those that cant their bows IMO. So looks like you're just about on the money. Good job....Art
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Post by: gstoneberg on February 01, 2012, 08:49:50 pm
That's how I like to see the tiller, looks perfect to me.

George
Title: Re: One in the works..nit-pick my tiller pls
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 01, 2012, 10:03:05 pm
I appreciate the honest opinions guys. Im getting to where I dont trust me anymore! I will shoot it a hundred more times and finish it off. The mesquite grip worked down so well I dont really want to cover it up.....stipple grip maybe? Never done it, but it seems simple enough.
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Post by: footfootfoot on February 02, 2012, 01:20:07 am
Looks pretty darn good to me. I copied the image and flipped it in photoshop, then made it a bit transparent so you could see the mirror image/symmetry what have you.
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Post by: Lee Slikkers on February 02, 2012, 01:29:17 am
I just kept starring at the pic trying to figure out what the hell kind of string you had on that sucker when I finally read you photo-flipped it, LOL.

Gosh, I'm pretty slow sometimes...looking really good to me bud!
Title: Re: One in the works..nit-pick my tiller pls
Post by: Bevan R. on February 02, 2012, 01:50:51 am
Actually Lee he made the little known reverse penobscott. Instead of 2 bow, you use 2 strings. >:D
Title: Re: One in the works..nit-pick my tiller pls
Post by: Pappy on February 02, 2012, 07:33:46 am
Looks great to me,I would shoot it.  :) :) Good piece of wood ,well tillered,I doubt it will change much at least that has been my experience. :) Nice Job. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: One in the works..nit-pick my tiller pls
Post by: blackhawk on February 02, 2012, 09:04:30 am
Your GOLDEN buddy ;) perfecto tillerino :)
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Post by: MWirwicki on February 02, 2012, 10:02:17 am
Shoot it and call it a bow.
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 02, 2012, 11:01:23 am
Thanks guys. I shot it last night for quite a while. Wow she is screamer, very fast and stable at 1 3/4" wide. Thats a cool trick foot! I can dig that. This may sound crazy and even a bit silly. My tillering got much easier, faster and better when I started using my eye's and arms and not any other tillering aids. No more sneak pics until I get this one dolled up.
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Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 02, 2012, 02:20:55 pm
Looks great, PD. Nice tiller. Jawge
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Post by: ErictheViking on February 02, 2012, 03:25:16 pm
No nit-pickin here. that is a sweet looking bow. nice curves and tiller is spot on.