Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Dictionary on January 26, 2012, 05:11:26 pm
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Disclaimier: This is probably a stupid question.
I was researching some plans on making a tillering tree and i was searching for the simplest method of doing so but all seemed to require power tools (a power drill first and foremost) and i don't have one or access to one(money is very tight for this young guy). I was wondering does anyone have a tree set up maybe with just the pulley nailed in to the wall? I thought i read somewhere someone did. Could this handle at least 60 pounds of weight? Or is there another method to get this set up with just simple hand tools? I'm not unusually handy.
Thanks
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I just use a 2x4 with a piece nailed on the front 2" face to hold in the handle. Use a handsaw to cut your string grooves at about a 45 degree so it doesn't slip out. You could nail it to the wall, but I use mine free standing because I don't have a pulley. I'd nail it to a stud, then nail your pulley on the same stud closer to the ground. Hope this helps!
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Mine is very similar to above but I don't have notches for the string and I used screws because I've had bad experiences with nails on various other projects. Rob
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Yes, you can SECURELY bolt the pulley to a wall with a shelf at some distance over it. Good to go. Mine is bolted to a 2 x 4 and clamps into a vice and clamps up top to keep it from moving back and forth. Make sure the vice is bolted down securely. Jawge
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I have a tiller tree that is portable. It is a 6' 2x4 with a 4" long 2x4 piece nailed near the top to hold the bow. At the bottom I put a screw eye in with the pully attached. I strap or tie it to a porch or barn support pole and tiller away. On one of my barn poles, where I have the camp-o-rama, I nailed a short piece of 2x4 to the pole and screwed the pully/screw eye down near the bottom.
Be sure that whatever you make is very solid and has plenty of room around it. You don't want any problems with a cheaply made tiller tree when you have your bow at full draw. :o
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Peacebow, yours is a tillering stick, i've got one of those made already
George, how would i go about bolting it to the wall? What tool is needed for this?
Pat- so the pulley is attached only by a screw eye? But you have to have a power drill to drill that in to the wall though right?
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My tree is a vertical 2x4 mounted to the wall with some long drywall screws. My pulley is attached with a big screw eye. If you go with the 2 pulley design, it will make it a lot easier to draw the bow on it. That helps when you start exercising it during tillering.
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So is it necessary to predrill before installing the eye bolts?
Like this starting at 1:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUDzJiW_7Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGUDzJiW_7Q)
I'm really asking all of this because i really have no power tools and no money for them.....Nor have i really used any power tools in a really long time.
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It would make it easier to screw in and help prevent the board from splitting.
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hmmm....I may have to save up and invest in one.
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You could get one cheap off of craigslist.
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Try driving a spike nail into the stud first then pull it out and use the hole left behind to start the eye bolt into , When you get it started stick a screw driver or something in the eye to give you the leverage you need to finish screwing it in !
ask permission from the owner first 1
Guy
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You can get power drills pretty cheap (under $40) every once in a while especially if they are on sale. They aren't high quality, but they're fine for the odd job around the workshop or house.
The drill I have my girlfriend bought me for $37, and it came with a hard case, a whole assortment of bits, and a ratchet screwdriver, only one battery though. It would be no good for a contractor or even a regular handyman, but for me it get's the job done.
But if you really don't want to buy one, a hand held screwdriver will do the job, it'll just take more time and effort.
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Drive a nail where you want the screw eye, pull the nail out and screw in the "screw" eye. ;)
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do you know anyone that can loan you one? gotta be somebody with a drillmotor, Bub
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Doesn't anyone use a hand drill anymore?
If you have a stud wall, you can drill into wood perfectly well with an hand drill.
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hand%20Tools/Carpenters%20Tools/Hand%20Drill/d10/sd150/p20242
You can even punch into concrete or brick with a simple steel rod filed across the end into a cross to make 4 points, hit the back end with a club hammer rotate 90 regrees, repeat until you get deep enough. Beer helps lubricate the process.
Del
(This is primitive archer? Right?)
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Ohhhh, i reread some of your posts.
Pat that was very helpful, I feel like an idiot because i couldn't understand anything of what you wrote yesterday but i got it today. I got a couple of peices scrap wood 2x4's about 6 feet tall. I think a portable one would be good. I'm headed over to a pawn shop to see the prices of a drill. Hoping i can find one for less than 30. I could use it to drill a 5/16 hole in a peice of metal or wood for arrow sizing as well.
I'll nail in a peice of wood to hold the handle at the top and drill in a hole then screw in the screw eye at the bottom and attach the pulley to it. Should be a peice of cake. Thanks guys.
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Ok i went out and purchased a drill(40$ :-\) and some drill bits. Went to the hardware store and found some pulleys and a screw eye. I was like :o when i figured out i didn't know how to attach the pulley to the eye hook when both are metal holes that don't attach or unattach. The pulleys i was looking at were full circles. Do you guys use one that hooks on?? I didn't see one at Ace.
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You should be able to pry open the screw eye and put the pulley in it. Use a vice and some sturdy pliers. Or, you could go back to Ace and get a spair chain link that screws shut. That would work to connect the two.
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Ok. And i'll look for a chain link. I'm going to be doing this into a 2x4, do i want the screw eye to be able to penetrate through the opposite end of the board?