Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Bryce H on January 16, 2012, 11:50:28 pm
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Winter, for me, means football and doing a whole bunch of stuff inside rather than outside....even though I live in Texas and the weather is perfect still for doing things outside. I've always admired the Indians of the Northern Plains, though it helps that I have the littlest smidgin of Lakota in me (I mean, reeeeal little). But I'm proud of that heritage, anyhow. So, I wanted to make a warshirt. Spent most of the day on it so far, and I'm pleasantly surprised by my first attempt. Here's pics of the progress so far, and I'll try to update it next weekend as I keep going. Hopefully, by the end, I'll have something that is good enough to display on the wall in the house. Enjoy!
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j387/woodslandtrekker/386062_10100413712458882_17125331_46891727_981663387_n.jpg)
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j387/woodslandtrekker/381733_10100414267741092_17125331_46893514_1695447225_n.jpg)
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j387/woodslandtrekker/402726_10100415019788982_17125331_46896434_1917987706_n.jpg)
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j387/woodslandtrekker/386079_10100415017738092_17125331_46896430_741572218_n.jpg)
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Looking great. I'm jealous
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Thanks, Bill!
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Looking good so far, looking forward to seeing it finished. I want to make something like that out of the brain taned hides I have been doing,how many hides will yours take,I was told it would take 4 deer,1 for the front 1 for the back and 1 for each sleeve with some scrap left over ? :)
Pappy
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Thank you, sir! This one is not of skin, but linen, Pappy. I wanted to try one first of cloth, to avoid any major malfunctions ruining multiple skins....I'm a scardy cat like that. In the book, Mystic Warriors of the plains, by Thomas Mails, he states that two were used. I'll see if I can't get a picture of it when I get home. Essentially, the bottom halves of the two skins (back of the animal) provided the front and back of the shirt, and the top halves, folded over with the skin of the legs included, provided the sleeves.
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Pappy, this is the drawing in Thomas Mails' book.
On the left, it shows the rear of the two hides forming the front and back of the shirt; on the right, the top of the hides forming the sleeves. Sorry about the quality, I don't have a scanner so I had to snap it with my phone.
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j387/woodslandtrekker/Warshirt.jpg)
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Thanks,I also want to get a clear idea before I jump in and mess up some hides,lots of work in brained tanned hides and looks like lot of work putting it all together. :)
Pappy
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Looking good. :)
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Little update, got one side of the front done today. Took awhile, but I'm fairly happy with it.
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j387/woodslandtrekker/Warshirt-1.jpg)
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Good thread to post my warshirt. May be there are some more here.
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Uwe, I'd love to come to visit you and see your collection of North American Native American History. You'll have to open a museum some day. ;) I'd bet you like a good old sh!t kicker Cowboy and Indian movie too.
Nice work on your war shirt Bryce. Smart idea to start out with linen.
Pappy, Crazy Crow has patterns for war shirts and such.
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Uwe, that is gorgeous!
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Thanks for this boys. Yes a good authentic film of tose times (not the old `40ties t0 čarly 70ties movies) I likke very much. Dances with wolfes or stuff like this are the preferred ones.
The plainsshirt I`ve made is lent on pctographics from the Upper Missouri Region with elements of Plainsstyle (Lakota). The beading is early 19th century with ponybeads in the easy to work geometric design of those times. Quill wrapped horsehair and 2 quilled rosettes- one on the back and one on the front.
Pat. I could will post some other things the next time.
Regards Uwe
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Very nice quill work indeed - hard to find porkys in the west any more. I haven't seen one in about 20 years!
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Think, no good news to hear. What about the population of porkies to be said in the US?
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Excellent shirt Bryce, and like they said it is good to use another material, before you take a chance on ruining a good hide. Uwe, I was going to ask if you used Porcupine quills, or soda straws in place of quills. The only "porky" I have seen was in eastern Montana, and it was huge! I never knew that they got that big! I had seen smaller ones on TV but this is the first one I had seen in the wild. I don't know about health of the porcupine population, but I know they still sell the quills in fishing shops, for use as bobbers, or line floats, unless they're imports, or farm raised. I know that the porcupines were not too well appreciated up north for the damage they did to trees, and not liked at all in hunting camps, for the damage they would do to anything that had salt on it, like boots, gloves, axe, and hammer handles, etc. Beautiful job sir, as always.
Wayne