Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: soy on January 14, 2012, 03:04:18 am
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Hi all, a while ago I posted a question (can I use dead standing walnut /red elm) well I tried walnut first...the bark was mostly missing and the sap wood was punkey and the first few growth rings were littered with bug holes...well I got under all that to some solid wood and bam!
This one is 68" ntn4" handle 3"fades 2"wide and tapers to 1/2" knocks 16.5"from the tips.
it was a good weight but murphey and his stupid law(not my mess up ;) ) happens
Bringing it down to a lesser draw weight than I had plans, but the wood is beautiful and it held together so the test was a success! I will post pics as I get them from photobucket. Thanks for any criticism.
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There you go, teasing us with bow-porn and then making us wait for it. That's just mean, anyway you cut it!!! >:( ;) ;D Josh
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Sorry did not mean to tease u doc >:D
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As custom for myself LOT o pics...sorry >:D
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The outside pics were taken today it was cool (6°f)I worked it 40 times after being strung for30min.to see if the temp affected it.finaly the $ shot ,the tiller is a bit off on the top limb
Sorry
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Dead standing red elm is my next project after I finish my current heat tempered white oak.
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Beautiful bow!! Love that grain pattern on the fades. If that tiller is off, it isn't far off. I wouldn't take off the finish to change it if it were mine. Good work! That one qualifies as bow art in my book.
George
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man that bow is great!!! That close up of those fade out is amazing what weight did it turn out at??
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Man!!! That is gorgeous!!! Well worth the wait. I don't see anything wrong with that tiller. Josh
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this is a very nice bow good work. The finish is very appealing
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Very well done! Trying to convince a friend of mine his walnut needs pruned.... ;D How big in diameter was the original log? Grain pattern looks great.
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That is stunning! I can't imagine attaining that level of skill. I almost quit trying to make my own bow after I viewed the post about the five year old making a bow, while I am having so much difficulty. But you have inspired me to endevour on. Beautiful!
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Thanks guys ::)
Frankherk. It can be frustrating take your time and measure often ask questions here and good luck also welcome!
Postman. It was from am 18"
Dictionary...I used tr-oil on this one
Dazv. I don't know for shure but before final sanding I was 38@26 I plan on giving it a final weigh later today I will post the #
Occupant. I plan on trying dead standing elm soon also good luck
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Very nice. The profile is stunning. 8)
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38 lbs is still a good shooter in my books, good luck with that elm! Elm in the UK gets absolutely covered in bug holes that can go all the through the stave as soon as it dies, so there is no way i could use dead standing elm in the UK.
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That is a beauty bow. Good craftsmanship showing.
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Very nice bow!!! .... as others have said I don't see the problem with the tiller? I bet it's a shooter!!
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don't ya love the look of well finished walnut, i'm getting ready to get some more cut myself, want to get a walnut self bow with some of the white sapwood on the back for the color contrast, that is pretty, Bub
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The craftsmanship and bows that the people on this forum turn out amaze me everyday. That is one of the most beautiful bows i have ever seen. Great job Soy!
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absolutely beautiful finish and well tillered , great bow
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There can never be to many pics of a beautiful bow. I think you still owe us a couple.
Really nice looking bow.
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Wow, thanks all for the kind words
Bubby. I agree I would love to find one with good sapwood that would look awsome with both colors!
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One more question /request ...I had a friend draw(see pic.)just trying to find what need be tweaked on next one I think I see it but to be shure could someone do me the honor of drawing one of those circle jobers on the drawn pic for my reference. Thanks a million ;)
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that is a nice bow sir !
Is he drawing it from the center of the string ?
The string angles seem different !
Guy
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That is a good question buckeye looks like he has it a bit low, I had not noticed that .and thanks for the compliment ;D
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This what you wanted done?
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Yes!thanks Bevan ;) little farther out o wack than I thought :o
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I think some of the issue is how it is being held and drawn. It is not as bad as you think.
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Great looking bow...He might be canting alittle bit in the last couple pics????
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Did u do that on a computer or a phone Bevan?
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Adding the ellipse works better with a picture from a tiller tree. I think the holder is torking up the bottom limb with holding that elbow that high. and if it is canted toward the camera the top limb will look straighter. Just a couple of thoughts.
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On my computer. Just saved your photo onto my hard drive then edited it with paint (windows system) and added an circle. saved it and reposted it.
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Cool thanks again ...was hopeful that it was phone than I could do it also.maby blackhawk has the ability to do on his phone, he is full of knowledge about droids. Ill be in his debt for some time for all the info he has already given....thanks again Bevan and hickory ;D
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Anytime. If you want a curve added to another photo, just post and ask.
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That is an amazing looking bow! I love walnut. I'm new to the forum and to bow making. I wish I could make something that looks half as good. Maybe one day. Anyways Walnut obviously it must make a fair bow. How did you do your handle? That looks amazing!
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Oscar, thank you and welcome to pa. You will no doubt be building top notch bows in no time, as far as the handle I glued a piece of walnut to the side for the arrow shelf and than removed wood from where it was uncomfortable until it just fit ...hope that kinda makes sence cause its hard for me to describe without showing you ;)
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Beautiful finish, great bow!
Bakh
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Thank you Bakh!
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Tru oil and black walnut go together like oreos n milk...both are tasty good. She finished up real nice. I dont think you can edit an ellipse on the phone unless its in one of the preset images you can edit into a photo....
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Good looking bow,the finish is beautiful. :)
Pappy
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Absolutely gorgeous bow, soy. How does it stack up, performance wise, against the other major players in the bow-wood department?
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Gorgeous grain on that one
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T c and pappy thank you very much ;D
blackhawk I guess the smart phone has its limits, thanks ;)
jonathan c.I don't have a crono. But it was hitting hard@55#and it was doing it smoooooth I will defiantly be trying this wood again...good looking to boot! :o
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38 lbs is still a good shooter in my books, good luck with that elm! Elm in the UK gets absolutely covered in bug holes that can go all the through the stave as soon as it dies, so there is no way i could use dead standing elm in the UK.
I've shot some real nice shooting 35# bows before. "I believe" (just my opinion) that a 35# bow can shoot even better than a typical 50# bow if the 35# one is very well made.
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I don't disagree tmk, I was however going for 50#but working on the thing in the headlights of the semi turns out not to be the best of ideas ...fixing flaws drops weight every time >:(
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Working in the headlights of a semi ? That sounds a bit dangerous! :o ::) Seriously though, that is beautiful. I'm trying not to get discouraged, but it seems I keep making firewood instead of bows.
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Tiller looks good to me and nice finish. ;) Digital overlays can be a little missleading if the pic isnt straight.
Look see.
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i've made 3 walnut sapwood bows, and find them to be sweet bows! having said that, seeing this makes me want to get some walnut that's big enough to split oput some heartwood! that's some beautiful bow work!!!! ;)
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Dang thats beautiful I'm putting gas in my saw right now
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I have a question, did you chase a ring on that thing? I've got walnut all over the place and it sure is a pretty wood, kinda wonder what is the best way to establish the back on it. Treat it like a white wood and just pop the bark or chase a ring like osage, black locust and mulberry?
Very nice work indeed. Danny
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Working in the headlights of a semi ? That sounds a bit dangerous! :o ::) Seriously though, that is beautiful. I'm trying not to get discouraged, but it seems I keep making firewood instead of bows.
Yes it is very dangerous (don't try this at home) ;D as far as fire wood goes, they say here if you ain't braken you ain't maken, stick with it and good things will defiantly show up
Dwardo thanks I guess I need to take straight pics
Rkeltner And EricWard thanks I have found others on here that made me do the same
Sidewinder I had to chase several rings as the outside was rotten and full of bug holes
after you do one walnut chasing osage seams so much easier but I've been told the sap wood works also or a blend of the two...
Thanks again all for the kind words :)
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See there ! I told you that tiller was sweet! ;) Josh
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Now that is one slick bow, thank you for braving the cold to get those pics out to us
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Thanks doc I shuld have never doubted you ;)
youngboyer thanks, bundle up if u do the same :D