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Title: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: CherokeeKC on December 14, 2011, 11:23:23 pm
Finally got around to fletching these practice arrows that I bare shaft tuned in September.  Three of them are fletched with canadian goose feathers in standard three feather helical.  Other is fletched with turkey tail feather in cherokee two fletch style.  This was the first time I tried this style two fletch and I put about 45 degree of twist on it.  I think I might have "twisted" the wrong way when fletching.  The quill might lay a little flatter on shaft if I had twisted the opposite direction.

(http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab144/charnockk/Arrows/2011-12-14204042.jpg)

(http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/ab144/charnockk/Arrows/2011-12-14204101.jpg)
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: CherokeeKC on December 14, 2011, 11:24:53 pm
Oh yeh, I forgot to add that once I shoot them I might trim the width of the feathers down some depending on how they fly
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: Josh B on December 15, 2011, 02:16:03 am
They look pretty good.  You are correct in your suspicion that you twisted the two Fletcher the wrong way.  The two fletch is my favorite way to fletch arrows, quick, simple and they fly great!  You definitely want to redo that.  Also trim the two fletch down a lot , 3/8 to 7/16 is about the highest profile you are gonna want.  Any higher profile than that and it will fishtail pretty bad when shooting with a cross wind.   Josh
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: Pappy on December 15, 2011, 07:31:13 am
Good looking arrows,looking forward to hearing how they fly. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: sadiejane on December 15, 2011, 09:55:53 am
nice looking arrows there.
have only fletched a few two fletch arrows and they fly great!
definitely gonna do some more as a pal just gave me another turkey tail.
thanks
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: TurtleCreek on December 15, 2011, 02:44:47 pm
Simply beautiful arrows, I like em'.
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: Pat B on December 15, 2011, 03:27:10 pm
Nice arrows.   Which viburnum did you use? Arrowwood or other?
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: CherokeeKC on December 15, 2011, 08:44:49 pm
Thanks for the kind words :).  Pat im almost positive they are arrowwood.  A more experienced friend of mine showed me what the plant looked like.  Im not very good at identifying anything without someone to show me what it is in person.
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: Will H on December 16, 2011, 12:12:56 am
Very nice! I really like the two fletch, I think Im gonna have to try that soon  :)
~Will
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: sadiejane on December 16, 2011, 10:39:24 am
here's a great little vid showing how to do the two fletch

http://www.youtube.com/user/gotrocksinhead#p/c/013105A96D10EC7B/4/D7flDd7-OCk (http://www.youtube.com/user/gotrocksinhead#p/c/013105A96D10EC7B/4/D7flDd7-OCk)
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: Pat B on December 16, 2011, 11:26:00 am
That is an excellent video on Eastern Woodland 2fletch...and all primitive too.  8)
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: Josh B on December 16, 2011, 11:55:40 am
Cherokee, disregard my last post, after watching that vid, perhaps I've been doing it wrong.  Oh well it works for me.  Great looking shafts you made there.  I have plenty of dogwood, but no viburnum .  Guess I'll have to plant some.  Josh
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: CherokeeKC on December 16, 2011, 06:48:09 pm
Gun Doc i just watched the video too and you and I were right initially.  I rotated the feather the wrong way when fletching.  It flies great however so im going to leave as is on this one.  I think the only advantage is the feather lays flatter and looks cleaner if you do it the right way.
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: Pat B on December 16, 2011, 07:06:03 pm
If you lay the feathers with the outside down against the shaft they lay flatter too and fly great.
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: CherokeeKC on December 16, 2011, 07:21:44 pm
Oh so I put them on wrong side out and twisted wrong way.  Great lol.  Couldnt have done it more wrong :)

Pat do you know if that is how it was done historically?
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: Josh B on December 16, 2011, 08:01:49 pm
I reckon if they fly good, it's all good!  Doing things different is the one thing we all do the same.   Josh
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: Pat B on December 17, 2011, 01:01:35 am
Historically I think it was done the way you are doing it. Steve Parker(Hillbilly) tought me this trick and it works just as good as the original but the feathers do seem to lay flatter back down. He may even have a build along in the "How To" section or a post here in "Arrows". Do a search. Steve may chime in this weekend. He's been very busy at work and with family activities lately and not been on PA much.
  Both ways work good so it is another personal preference thing I guess.  ;)
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: TurtleCreek on December 17, 2011, 07:22:02 am
  Cherokee, did you make those shafts from raw material?
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: CherokeeKC on December 17, 2011, 12:46:25 pm
Thanks Gun Doc.

Pat I will definitely try that way next time.

TurtleCreek im not really sure what you mean by raw material but I cut viburnum shoots last winter and let them dry for several months.  I just got around to making these practice arrows and a couple hunting arrows this September.
Title: Re: Viburnum Practice Arrows
Post by: TurtleCreek on December 17, 2011, 04:01:09 pm
  That's what I meant, they look great