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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: fishfinder401 on December 07, 2011, 01:27:32 am

Title: now this is just over doing it
Post by: fishfinder401 on December 07, 2011, 01:27:32 am
i was jsut looking on the bass pro website looking for a heavy scale( found a 440lb for 25 ;D) and one of the suggested products is a chronograph you can mount on you bow, to me this seems Way to ever the top, i mean really what use is it knowing what your exact speed was on a shot already passed, especially with you knowing about what you have as they usually seem to have it written on the package somewhere
i just don't get it :P
so...... what other archery related products out there are as outrageous as this or even more so?
noel
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Keenan on December 07, 2011, 01:35:18 am
I saw a Hunting bow"  listed on Craigslist yesterday and the guy said he had it sighted in for 100, 75, and 50 yards. :o :o  Everything in me wanted to pretend to buy it just so I could tell him to his face that it's unethical to take those kind of hail marry shots. Guess he decided bow hunting is to hard. ::)
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Jimbob on December 07, 2011, 01:44:31 am
I agree that having a chronograph attached to your bow is a little over the top but if you were selling chronographs and some dude came to you and said " hey man, can you put one of those on my bow?", would you turn him down?  Its just business, besides I bet the only ones buying them are the guys that have more moolah than they know what to do with.  Wish I had that problem ;D
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: fishfinder401 on December 07, 2011, 01:49:05 am
besides I bet the only ones buying them are the guys that have more moolah than they know what to do with. 
then let them buy me high quality Italian yew, ill tell them the sacrifice increases the speed of your arrows >:D
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: fishfinder401 on December 07, 2011, 01:54:42 am
actually i did just remember, my uncles brother was talking to me and he and my uncle are into hunting of every kind, but with bows that use training wheels :P, he said he had all the bells and whistles on his bow, but hoped to eventually switch to a recurve the possibly a longbow and kept saying how much more skill it requires, he really admired that i made my own too, i even got a small pair of antler out of it, but one thing from talking to him and my uncle that i learned is that some of the people using the "C" word bows do so mostly because they don't feel they have enough skill to use normal bows ::)
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Jimbob on December 07, 2011, 02:35:18 am
I have noticed that its not as easy as a "C" bow, but I have been getting a little better with a recurve that I traded for.
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: fishfinder401 on December 07, 2011, 02:49:49 am
I have noticed that its not as easy as a "C" bow, but I have been getting a little better with a recurve that I traded for.
your already probably better than me  ;)
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Jimbob on December 07, 2011, 02:53:11 am
Didnt you say your from Tx?
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Jimbob on December 07, 2011, 02:54:08 am
Nevermind, just took a look at your profile, I get alot of people confused on here.  Sorry
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Rick Wallace on December 07, 2011, 03:30:14 am
I got my first C bow this year(free) and cant hit squat with it,,pick up my old hickory and target,target,target!!
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: osage outlaw on December 07, 2011, 05:02:51 am
I saw an arrow rest advertised that I thought was over the top.  It was magnetic and required special inserts.  When at full draw, your arrow was suspended in air by several different magnets with opposing forces.  So at full draw, the arrow was only touching the string and nothing else.
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 07, 2011, 10:43:30 am
The only good to come from all that frivolous garbage is the jobs it creates. Somebody has to make it, pack it, transport it and sell it. That means people are working, hopefully half of it here in the USA. The sporting goods shop's would be hurting if everybody where like us tightwads making our own gear!
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Jimbob on December 07, 2011, 12:20:55 pm
HAHAHA, Well said PD!
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Kpete on December 07, 2011, 12:51:49 pm
I met a guy last year who was working on a small transmitter to fit on your arrow.  Once an animal was hit you could use a receiver to track your game.  No Kidding!  I saw the transmitter.
This fall a guy showed up in camp with an electronic wind direction indicator.  He was pleased with it.  We all had threads on our bow limbs. 
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: JW_Halverson on December 07, 2011, 05:38:05 pm
The only good to come from all that frivolous garbage is the jobs it creates. Somebody has to make it, pack it, transport it and sell it. That means people are working, hopefully half of it here in the USA. The sporting goods shop's would be hurting if everybody where like us tightwads making our own gear!

Not to mention the jobs for the people that drive the garbage trucks and those that work at the landfill disposing of all of last year's models because you can't hunt this year with last year's model!  Ah, the American dream, buying better skills.
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Postman on December 07, 2011, 10:27:47 pm
I think the doohicky thatholds your c bow at full draw for you is a hoot.
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: iowabow on December 08, 2011, 10:17:48 am
Why hunt with a bow? The answer is because it is hard to do right!  and it is a challenge of ones skill VS nature.  Making newer and easier ways to havest deer with a "c" bow dilutes the core and the sprirt of the sport. 
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Ranger B on December 08, 2011, 07:27:05 pm
Kpete. I have thought about the transmitter a lot and think it would be a great idea. How many guys post that they hit a deer but couldnt find it?  How many didn't post it but also wounded one?  If guys were honest, compound and recurve/longbow alike, we wound and fail to find a lot of deer annually. I am all for a simple tool that increases a hunters ability to recover a wounded animal.
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Kpete on December 08, 2011, 08:36:40 pm
the fella was trying to get the transmitter to fit on a "dart" that would sit on top of the arrow. Then it would stay with the carcass even with a pass through.   The challenge is getting it down to a reasonable price.  His idea was that guys could go together and buy a receiver and then only have the cost of the transmitters for their arrows.
I am not of a mind to go that way.  Yes we lose a critter from time to time, but not sure I want to go that techy.  I would much prefer if Wyoming would legalize the use of blood-trailing with a dog.
Kirk
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: iowabow on December 09, 2011, 10:51:26 am
I think many deer recover after being hit with an poorly placed shot.  I have seen deer later in the season that I hit but did not kill.  Many deer bed down and bleeding stops then healing begins.  If we put pressure on the deer I would think they would be pushed further and the stress could prevent them from recovering.  They might die out of radio range.  I am a ham radio operater and I can tell you a a small transmitter of that size has very limited application.  There are other factors to consider with this as well for example weather, hills will block signals, batteries need to be strong all the time, the stronger the output the shorter the battery life will be. The best way to do this would be for the transmitter to send a GPS location but the deer would have to die so the antenna could could see satellites.  I don't see this idea working well do to the scale.  Another question is do we want transmiters in deer that don't die.  I don't want to be field dressing a deer and find batteries corroded in a deer I just harvested.  Dogs yes! Because coyotes will be doing the same thing. 
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: BowEd on December 09, 2011, 11:17:36 am
From hunting coondogs with tracking collars most of my life in different states and strange areas I can speak first hand as to the topoghraphical gliches and battery life this arrow transmitter would be like to use.Anyway to me it's just another way to take an unethical shot.Waste of money and time by the inventer whom I'm sure has zero ethics himself.It's like this man against deer,respect on both ends.No luminocks,sight pins range finders,etc.Just think if a deer had this technology.....LOL.Dumb thing to say but you can tell what I mean.Deer to me are a beautiful part of nature even with their frustrating nature.It makes a person respect them even more.
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: iowabow on December 09, 2011, 12:17:04 pm
OK I am a geek but not when it comes to hunting that is where I draw the line. Below are photos of a spy plane I custom built. This plane has a TV transmitter so the plane can be flown from a TV screen it also has a GPS locater and a data entry log that records the flight of the plane in real time and is transmitted to a computer on the ground and displays the movement of the plane like a radar screen. I also out fitted the plane with a beacon that will transmit 24 hours after a crash. Now I can tell you that the plane will transmit about 1/2 mile but you need to understand that the plane is line of sight. Now with a yagi I can do better but if a deer is in a creek (dry) and is laying on the transmitter there will be little chance of locating that animal at any great distance. Now a way to improve this would be to have a balloon that could take your receiver into the air for a better line of sight hearing of the transmitter but you would not hear it either. This is not real practical because of wind. YES I KNOW I AM A GEEK!
(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m559/iowabow2/2011-12-09080507.jpg)

(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m559/iowabow2/2011-12-09080442.jpg)

(http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m559/iowabow2/2011-12-09080452.jpg)


Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: blackhawk on December 09, 2011, 03:09:05 pm
@iowabow.....so that's how pictures of me running around my back yard in only a tutu got posted all over the internet :o.....thanks man :laugh:


My take on it is whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: Stoker on December 09, 2011, 04:08:19 pm
Cool plane. I went through the c phase when I first started. 9 years I'll never get back  :'( It did teach me archery and what I liked and didn't like, not all lost.The next 14 were better. We are a consumer driven society. Money has to flow. C bows are more for the instant gratifaction crowd. Fast accurate and shiney. Rather then learning a craft. I'm not against all techy stuff I got a digital trail cam I still have my guilty pleasures >:D
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: iowabow on December 09, 2011, 04:46:08 pm
I like looking at the trails that the deer make eating corn
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: JW_Halverson on December 09, 2011, 07:06:26 pm
I want the transmitters for my arrow just so I can bloody well find the arrows!
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 09, 2011, 07:56:21 pm
"Honey grab my wool, my selfbow, my sourwood arrows and my transmitters, Im going huntin!"........"Come on man!" My wife would look at me sideways and say...."what...?"
Title: Re: now this is just over doing it
Post by: iowabow on December 09, 2011, 09:52:13 pm
If you  could shoot like me you would not have that problem.  I miss most of the time. Hehe