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Title: hickory/sinew horsebow finaly version
Post by: Lukasz Nawalny on November 08, 2011, 09:44:59 pm
last time I have made few wood/sinew horsebow , this one shoot realy nice and fast im content. Finished with very light roe leather , give not much extra mass. 120 cm about 46 lb bow mass 420 gram.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hiPZD-Jf-c
Title: Re: hickory/sinew horsebow finaly version
Post by: MWirwicki on November 08, 2011, 10:01:58 pm
Lukasz:  That certainly is a nice video.  And the bow...that beautiful bow.  From one Pol to another, I like everything about it.  I would have never thought of simple white.  It's gorgeous. 

How did you make it?  Did you document your steps?  Can you share more about the dimensions?  Core thickness/width?  Sinew layers?  Forms?  Horn?

You're killing me.  I have to have one.  I can't put it off any longer... 
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Post by: Kviljo on November 08, 2011, 10:03:01 pm
Very nice bow! How many laminates did you use?  - and how much sinew?
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Post by: TurtleCreek on November 08, 2011, 10:08:36 pm
That bow is gorgeous, well done.
Title: Re: hickory/sinew horsebow finaly version
Post by: Lukasz Nawalny on November 08, 2011, 10:23:56 pm
 :) this is not laminated bow its selfbow - make from one piece of white hickory , glue only handle. I use my steaming machine , on foto reflex in handle area in scythian bow, recurve I make in traditional way , 2 layers sinew in working deflex area and one layer on limbs and my favorite fish glue

Title: Re: hickory/sinew horsebow finaly version
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on November 08, 2011, 11:21:54 pm
OHHHH AHHHHH......I want one too!  It looks to shoot those arrows with authority.  I really like the white and dark leather contrast. ;)
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Post by: blackhawk on November 08, 2011, 11:34:06 pm
That is some excellent manipulation of wood ;)
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Post by: randman on November 09, 2011, 12:15:02 am
Very nice bow! And I love your workbench! Looks like it has been used for centuries.
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Post by: soy on November 09, 2011, 04:43:36 am
Good job on both video and bow!!!  ;)
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Post by: Dazv on November 09, 2011, 07:55:10 am
amazing bow it looks super fast!!!!
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Post by: ErictheViking on November 09, 2011, 01:27:45 pm
Another beauty Lukasz, very nice! :)
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Post by: coaster500 on November 09, 2011, 02:47:09 pm
A self bow!! Wow an amazing job again sir :)
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Post by: james parker on November 09, 2011, 03:21:29 pm
really nice bow, good video too :)
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Post by: Hrothgar on November 09, 2011, 03:36:21 pm
Very nice bow, enjoyed the video too.
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Post by: swamp yeti on November 09, 2011, 03:56:04 pm
Beautiful bow.
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Post by: bubby on November 09, 2011, 06:05:58 pm
great bow Lukasz, what were the dimensions of the wood prior to steaming, lenght width, thickness, amazing bends, Bub
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Post by: JBL on November 11, 2011, 12:22:40 am
BRAVO!!!  Very nice.  The finish is awesome.
Title: Re: hickory/sinew horsebow finaly version
Post by: Lukasz Nawalny on November 11, 2011, 07:16:25 am
wood humidity before steaming was high , I dont know exactly but that was stripwood directle from big trunk. in time of rehydration i had big problems with twisted limbs , I have to corret this many times with heat gun . 118 CM long ,limbs  3,5 cm X 1 cm ,in handle and on recurve about 2 cm
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Post by: bubby on November 11, 2011, 07:37:37 am
thank's Lukasz, Bub
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Post by: Scowler on November 11, 2011, 10:24:19 am
So many curves for a selfbow...Quite a beautiful bow.
Title: Re: hickory/sinew horsebow finaly version
Post by: Lukasz Nawalny on March 03, 2012, 02:00:44 pm
hi.Im still working on scythian style bows and this is my last version. Only 99 cm long , 50 lb at 26". Shots well with light arrows , with 18 - 20 gram arrows and 26 inch cross over 200 fps. It is not flight bow but not bad. Im still try to make this bows better , maybe I will make few modifications in future
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Post by: RyanY on March 03, 2012, 02:44:37 pm
That's awesome! Is this one also hickory and sinew?
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Post by: Lukasz Nawalny on March 03, 2012, 07:21:32 pm
yes wood/sinew
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Post by: Sparrow on March 03, 2012, 07:43:16 pm
That is simply incredible ! Beautiful too ! !  '  Frank
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Post by: Ifrit617 on March 03, 2012, 07:45:29 pm
How is it possible that the Hickory does not get compression fractures??? Awesome bow

Jon
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Post by: Gordon on March 03, 2012, 09:47:38 pm
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How is it possible that the Hickory does not get compression fractures???

I have the same question. How is this possible especially given that hickory is not remarkable in compression? I am amazed.
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Post by: PatM on March 03, 2012, 11:53:44 pm
Well we don't know for sure if it actually has chrysals or not......
 One possible answer is that the steaming process allows cells to become very plastic and compact uniformly. Look at the inside curve of a sharply curved steamed recurve and check for obvious chrysals there.
 If the inner limb is given a new "starting position" before being asked to compress even further the already uniformly compressed cells can likely take it.
 From that point on a fair bit of the draw length comes from the outer limb straightening out rather than bending.
 Having said all that, chrysals don't actually stop a bow from shooting.
Title: Re: hickory/sinew horsebow finaly version
Post by: Gordon on March 04, 2012, 02:13:58 am
Even so, that is an astonishing feat for a stiff-handled bow that is less than 40" in length. Everything I thought I knew about making wooden bows has gone completely out the window with this bow. I'm in awe...
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Post by: Prarie Bowyer on March 04, 2012, 03:54:23 am
Is this a horn belly?

the tips are spliced in or bent?
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Post by: Lukasz Nawalny on March 04, 2012, 03:58:29 am
no horn and no chrysals ;) After steaming I make shape and deflexive sections, wood is not in big compresion , also belly tepred ofcourse, sinew make great work on this bow
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Post by: Gordon on March 04, 2012, 11:30:07 am
That is an impressive bow Lukasz. You are clearly very skilled at this.
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Post by: Keenan on March 04, 2012, 12:11:05 pm
Great video and great looking bow Lukasz. Looks like a smooth shooter
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Post by: RDK on March 04, 2012, 06:58:55 pm
Lukasz:

Excellent.  I have watched your video several times, and share many of the questions and complements others have posted.  Your bows show a very high level of skill.  I can see how you shaped/bent the handle area from your photo showing your bench.  When you say you then after steaming you make and shape the deflexive sections--do you steam again and do both limbs/curves at the same time--and after you taper the belly section? The degree of taper must be critical for your curves--almost like a revers tiller?  There are many curves for a single piece of wood and I am curious as to the steps.  I find this bow so remarkable I'm probably not even asking the right questions.......

Beautiful work, and very nice to see shooting---I think I share with others--you really have me rethinking ......

Ron
Title: Re: hickory/sinew horsebow finaly version
Post by: Lukasz Nawalny on March 05, 2012, 06:53:10 am
Thanks guys. This bows are not very hard to make, horn composite in this style is harder. I want to make video with bulidalong this bow and few more intresting for example angular. Tillering angular bow is for me not easy
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Post by: Sidewinder on March 05, 2012, 12:18:41 pm
Wow, that is some serious wood manipulation. Great job Lukasz.  danny
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Post by: druid on March 05, 2012, 04:59:16 pm
Great bow! And good work table, like european old working tables, tezga.  ;)
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Post by: Steve Milbocker on March 05, 2012, 05:16:33 pm
Very cool bow and a great video too!
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Post by: RDK on March 05, 2012, 05:38:04 pm
A build a long!   Great--I'm looking forward to it!

Ron
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Post by: hammertime on March 06, 2012, 12:44:51 am
That is one impressive bow, beautiful work and amazing craftsmanship!Looks like those arrows are really cruising-Hammertime