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Title: Glue test
Post by: DirtyDan on July 05, 2007, 03:07:00 pm

Well after trying virtually every glue out there and having failures in one area or another, I have finally found the right one--for wood and bamboo, at least.  You may laugh, but it is Titebond III.  I finally got enough courage to try it on bamboo-backed laminations, and I was shocked at how well it has stood up on locust, osage, Ipe, and elm with bamboo backing.  Fine Woodworking recently conducted a strength test on  all of the major types of glue, and Titebond III won, hands down. So, the next time I had a glue-up, I tried it.  It worked great.  Very strong, flexible, good glue lines, cheap, and easy clean up.  Try it.  I think you will be surprised.

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: 1/2primitive on July 05, 2007, 04:23:33 pm

I've tried it, and it is some great stuff.  ;D
      Sean

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: kiwijim on July 05, 2007, 07:28:15 pm

How does it rate compared to 2 pot heat cured epoxy like smooth-on?

regards

James

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: Trapper on July 05, 2007, 08:46:23 pm

Ive always had trouble with handle risers wanting to pop off, and then I tried the TB3 and so far all handle risers are staying on . Ive used it for tip overlayes and everything and its the best hands down, I would trust it. I think one of the reasons it works so well, is it never gets brittle like other glues, and like handle risers it gives just enough to keep them in place. Thats just my humble opinion.       Trapper

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: mullet on July 05, 2007, 11:28:36 pm

  Kiwijim,I don't know about Smooth On,but I like it better then Urac.I've been using it since it came out.It just sets up quicker than TB2.And you can clean up and thin it with water.But it is water proof when dry.I thin it down when I use it with sinew.Like wrapping nocks and points on arrows.

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: Pat B on July 06, 2007, 01:18:10 am

I just bought a new bottle today. ;D  Good stuff.   It's strong, safe, no smell, cleans up with water, is waterproof after curing, readily available...nuff said!   I have an unopened can of Urac in my basement frig and it's been there over a year. I love Urac for wood to wood glue-ups but TBIII is easier. ;)   Pat

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: brian melton on July 06, 2007, 02:37:35 am

Eddie,

              That bamboo backed eastern red cedar I sent you a couple of yrs ago was done with titebond 111 is it still together???


Brian

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: Pappy on July 06, 2007, 06:03:02 am

I'm with yall,I use it all the time on tips and handles and have used it on the last 3 snake skins and raw hide I've done and it dries quick and cleans up easy and is water proof.I love the stuff.My TB2 will probably go bad from just setting there. :)
   Pappy

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on July 06, 2007, 08:34:49 am

Never had a failure with TB III, and I made some poor glue up jobs :D ::) :D ::)

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: Pappy on July 06, 2007, 09:14:23 am

By the way Dan ,good to see you posting again,missed you around here. :)
   Pappy

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: gpw on July 06, 2007, 09:41:53 am

Thanks for the tip!!!! .... we made alot of bows with Tightbond II  , never had a problem and we're making reflexed bows......Can't wait to try T III..  ;D

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: tom sawyer on July 06, 2007, 10:56:22 am

I always went with the URAC or resorcinol, just because of their gap-filling properties.  Plus its easier to prep surfaces for those glues, as they are supposed to be rough.  Titebond type glues require smooth, well-mated surfaces right?  Unless you are in Hawaii.  hehe

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: Pat B on July 06, 2007, 11:06:39 am

Lennie, That's what they say but like Manny, my glue joints leave a lot to be desired.  :o  Never had a backing fail due to a glue joint.     Pat

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on July 06, 2007, 03:40:01 pm

If you see the gaps on the BBG used in the test, you would laugth your head out :o :o in some places I filled with a splinter of Boo after the glue up was done !!! I should send this bow out for everyone to see :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: Pat B on July 06, 2007, 04:08:13 pm

I usually go around the glue joint with super glue to fill the voids. ;D   Pat

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: D. Tiller on July 06, 2007, 05:39:15 pm

Same here! Some of those gaps you could drive a semi through! Still seems to hold together though!

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: mullet on July 06, 2007, 05:54:12 pm

  Brian,That bow is still together and the son in-law is still shooting it.

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: NOMADIC PIRATE on July 06, 2007, 09:31:47 pm

I guess not just in HAWAII Lennie ;D

...and the surfaces where prepped with a 4 in 1 rasp :o :o :o



I tryed to talk about this years ago on T.G. when it was the only forum I knew of,...and got promply put in my place by the"TORGES WAY IS THE ONLY WAY" crew there ;D ;)

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: Justin Snyder on July 06, 2007, 11:46:20 pm

Quote from: NorthShoreLB on July 06, 2007, 09:31:47 pm

I guess not just in HAWAII Lennie ;D

...and the surfaces where prepped with a 4 in 1 rasp :o :o :o



I tryed to talk about this years ago on T.G. when it was the only forum I knew of,...and got promply put in my place by the"TORGES WAY IS THE ONLY WAY" crew there ;D ;)

I like to see people think outside the box.  It can get awfull stuffy in the box at times.  ;) Justin

Title: Re: Glue test
Post by: mullet on July 06, 2007, 11:51:30 pm

  Yep,Manny,That bow was put togethether in rainy Washington and is still shot in rainy Florida.