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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: LEGIONNAIRE on September 13, 2011, 11:28:39 pm

Title: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: LEGIONNAIRE on September 13, 2011, 11:28:39 pm

So here is another bow I made this last month. I finally decided to take some pictures and post them up. Its a 48 inch white oak selfbow with some motifs painted. The bow is based on a so called "shawnee bow" which has a controversial history because the guy's whos ancestor made it was a CA native, while the bow is registered to be a from the shawnee tribe. Honestly I think its from CA. Anyway the origianal bow is also oak 48 inches. I couldnt get the exact shape because the stave I used has a see through knot on the upper limb. The bow draws about 40-45lbs @ 25 inches. I heat treated the bow because the thing was taking set. After the heating the bow only has 5/8 of set and shoots an arrow pretty darn fast. All in all this bow is a pleasureto shoot.
I noticed also as many before that oregon white oak takes a hell of a lot of set despite not beign stressed and so it has to be either heat treated or a little sinew needs to be added.  Here is the pictures but before here is a link to the original pics of the artifact.
http://www.kumeyaay.info/indian_bows_arrows.html

(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee417/legionnair3/Bows/caflatbow1.jpg)
and the money shot
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee417/legionnair3/Bows/DSCN0533.jpg)

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: WolfPupTee on September 13, 2011, 11:35:44 pm

That's a nice looking bow despite the see through knot! Nice designs  :)  very, well, primitive! Good job man.

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: tattoo dave on September 14, 2011, 12:19:55 am

Sweet bow! I never would have guessed white oak was good for a bow that short. Awesome work. Love the artwork also!

Tattoo Dave

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: Hrothgar on September 14, 2011, 12:24:37 am

Very nice.

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: Blacktail on September 14, 2011, 12:30:43 am

HOLY BOWS BATMAN,now that is a great bow...i love it...you have some wonderful tiller...and the paint work is right on...white oak is a great bow wood  and i do agree about the sinew..personally i think white oak and sinew are a great combo....and a person cant go wrong with a west coast bow...thanks for sharing...john

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: Blacktail on September 14, 2011, 12:40:58 am

i just reread your post...if i read this right that bow has no sinew or rawhide...if not anther WOW...john

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: LEGIONNAIRE on September 14, 2011, 01:05:01 am

Oops just noticed that is not the link. Heres the good link
http://www.kumeyaay.info/whoswho/bios/gb/7blackhoofbow.html

Any how
Thanks Wolfpup
thanks tatoo dave; Yea the thing is nearly indestructible. Very good wood
Thanks hrothgar
Thanks Blacktail: Yes sinew seems to make a great combo with it aswell. You dont need much sinew becuase it doesnt break. Just enough to get a small reflex and then you are ready. Really amazing stuff.

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: MWirwicki on September 14, 2011, 01:25:53 am

White oak, really?  Well, It's a bunch easier to find white oak around my neck of the woods.  Gonna have to get me some of that.  Really like your bow.  The artwork is amazing.  Wished I could paint like that.  Did you use natural dyes?  The tiller is flawless, as well.  Nice job!

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: hawkshaman on September 14, 2011, 01:33:00 am

It's a beauty for sure. Great looking bow!

John

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: LEGIONNAIRE on September 14, 2011, 02:04:52 am

Yes really :D
Thanks Mwirwicki: this white oak stuff is good if you can somehow treat the set. Like I said heat treating is the key here, or sinew.

Thanks John

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: frankg on September 14, 2011, 02:26:31 am

Very nice bow !

I have a stave of local Scrub Oak (?) that is really white close grained stuff that I hope will turn out even half as nice !!

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: Dazv on September 14, 2011, 07:03:21 am

very nice bow i like it alot

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: Scowler on September 14, 2011, 10:04:19 am

Another beautiful bow.  Thanks for the website.

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: hawkshaman on September 14, 2011, 02:33:59 pm

That link is cool. I used to be a journalist in Ohio. I interviewed an anthropologist who had BlackHoof's pipe in his possession. It is really cool to see another artifact attributed to him. Thanks.

John

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: George Tsoukalas on September 14, 2011, 02:47:47 pm

That is a beauty! Jawge

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 14, 2011, 02:51:45 pm

Nice curves! That sucker is doing some work. I like to see that in a bow limb.

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: Matt S. on September 14, 2011, 03:30:21 pm

As always, nice work! Great bend from such a short stick, and lovely finish work.

I've always heard that White Oak is incredibly strong in tension but takes a lot of set. Looks like your heat treated belly has helped remedy that problem.

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: HoBow on September 14, 2011, 04:41:39 pm

Very nice job. Don't see much white oak being used ???

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: LEGIONNAIRE on September 14, 2011, 06:19:20 pm

Thanks Frank: give that a try, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Dazv: thanks :)
Thanks Scowler: no problem the link is very cool
John: thats pretty neat. Didnt know you did that.
George: thanks coming from you it means alot.
PD: thanks :)
Hobow: thanks. Maybe its your turn to use some nice oak :)

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: hawkshaman on September 14, 2011, 09:50:13 pm

Yep, I've had a wide range of jobs - journalist/newspaper editor, florist, corporate customer service manager, tattoo artist, bartender, greenhouse laborer. Currently, trying to get an art career going while being a stay-at-home dad. It also leaves more time for archery.  :)

John

Title: Re: WHITE OAK!!
Post by: LEGIONNAIRE on September 15, 2011, 03:14:27 am

man. That sounds like lots of fun. Never time to get bored. :)