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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: fusizoli on June 28, 2011, 12:13:17 pm

Title: Fusizoli's double curve ash
Post by: fusizoli on June 28, 2011, 12:13:17 pm: Hy!

This one is 45.5 long ntn and about 55# at full draw. Not mesured yet hehe ::) At about 24, max 25 draw.
Made from flowering ash, heat treated belly, curves and corrections made with dry heat. Sorry for the tiller string :)

Painted with earth pigments, coat is bees-carnauba wax.

Rich have made a bow like this few months before, and that give me the inspiration to make one. He posted a museum pic and this made after that pic.

(http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=25208.0;attach=44423;image)

Others posted in shortbow builders topic...(not for bom ;) )

(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/fusizoli/Shortbows/IMG_5622.jpg?t=1309268088)

(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/fusizoli/Shortbows/IMG_5630.jpg?t=1309267016)

(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/fusizoli/Shortbows/IMG_5640.jpg?t=1309267981[img][img width=362 height=600]http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/fusizoli/Shortbows/IMG_5622.jpg?t=1309268088)

(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/fusizoli/Shortbows/IMG_5636.jpg?t=1309268321)

(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/fusizoli/Shortbows/IMG_5619.jpg?t=1309268591)

(http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/fusizoli/Shortbows/IMG_5625.jpg?t=1309268514)

cheers Z
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: Pappy on June 28, 2011, 12:19:03 pm: That is a beautiful bow,very nice. :)
Pappy
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 28, 2011, 12:19:36 pm: (http://www.bigredcape.com/vignette-bow.gif)...at the "Alter of Zoltan"
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: druid on June 28, 2011, 12:33:40 pm: Good shorty with low set. ;-)
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Post by: beetlebailey1977 on June 28, 2011, 01:09:34 pm: AHH yes I like that. Very pretty bow. I really like the full draw and the art work on it.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: fusizoli on June 28, 2011, 01:26:34 pm: Thanks for the nice compliments! Lee :-* ;D
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Post by: ErictheViking on June 28, 2011, 01:35:03 pm: pure sweetness Zoltan. you nailed the tiller and the paint job is very cool. Rich will be excited ;D
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Post by: half eye on June 28, 2011, 02:00:11 pm: very nice Zoltan...about perfect comes to mind, sir!!!!! I recently made a 41" from the bow pic you sent to me (scalloped on opposite sides of the limbs) turned out very nice. Your bow is very beautifull Zoltan.
rich
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: Far East Archer on June 28, 2011, 02:20:33 pm: Very nice, the tiller and string angle is excellent
The paint on back looks quite good, it is with a hide glue? What is width at handle?
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: Parnell on June 28, 2011, 02:21:07 pm: That's a great looking bow! Great tiller, great finish work.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: bubby on June 28, 2011, 02:57:44 pm: you nailed it, love the full draw, Bub
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: fusizoli on June 28, 2011, 03:14:16 pm: I'm proud U like it guys :)

Waiting for the pics Rich!
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: Cameroo on June 28, 2011, 03:19:53 pm: Beautiful tiller and finish work, you should be proud :)
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: fusizoli on June 28, 2011, 03:54:44 pm: I would like to use egg or hide glue for the paint, but our climate conditions not allowe that. May casein would be a choice but used a transparent acryl wood glaze this time. It gives a perfect bond for the pigments in all condition and a matt surface like natural materials.

All other materials are natural :) The string will be linen with sinew wrapping on the nock point.
If I can get backstripp sinew, will make some siew strings too.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: james parker on June 28, 2011, 04:47:52 pm: very nice bow, also your earth pigments look great.......
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: fusizoli on June 28, 2011, 04:58:08 pm: Thanks James!
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: dwardo on June 28, 2011, 06:21:41 pm: Thats a lovely bow, very very nice.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: blackhawk on June 28, 2011, 09:20:42 pm: Beautiful,perfect,sweet. I love your work Zoltan ;)
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: RyanY on June 28, 2011, 10:05:31 pm: Fusizoli, I love how all of these short bows you've been making have come out. Every one is a masterpiece. I'll have to try one myself. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: JBL on June 29, 2011, 12:21:45 am: Very COOL!!! You gotta love a short bow.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: Traxx on June 29, 2011, 01:22:12 am: Very nice bow indeed!!!
While reading that this bow,was patterened after another,that was patterened after a pic,i hunted up the old thread.I hafta say,that i agree with PatM on the Lable of the Nation of origin,of the Original.No slight intended toward Rich or Zoltan,but i also question the lable,the original source put on the bow.It wouldnt be the first time for such a thing to happen.Regardless,it seems to be a nice shortbow and i bet a great shooter.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: Gordon on June 29, 2011, 03:55:39 am: Oh my, that bow certainly turned out nicely.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: fusizoli on June 29, 2011, 08:12:27 am: Thanks again for all the nice compliments! :)

Traxx here is Rich's topic http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,25208.0.html

This bow is 45.5 ntn 1.3x0.55 at the center, 1.2x0.47 at mid, 0.55x0.37 at the tips.

I don't know anything about the bow on "original pic" so any information would appreciated.

cheers Z
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: crooketarrow on June 29, 2011, 09:22:25 am: NICE I LIKE IT
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: Hawkeye1974 on June 29, 2011, 10:30:42 am: Amazing bow!
just a beautiful piece of craftsmenship.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: ken75 on June 29, 2011, 12:35:34 pm: king of the short bows !!!!!!!!!
great bow hell of a bend , purty finish work .
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: ohma2 on June 29, 2011, 04:05:11 pm: like it all , realy like the decoration, excelent work.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: PatM on June 30, 2011, 11:21:49 am: Love this bow but I still think the original has flipped when the string stretched and it's braced backwards.
Title: Re: Fusizoli's Crow double curve ash
Post by: fusizoli on June 30, 2011, 11:49:00 am: Thanks again!

Pat U mean looking like the second bow from right on this pic?

(http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=9076.0;attach=16374;image)

I've seen some bows like that, may U have right. Anyway I think this is a good design too and hope it is not an incorrect version. The other deflexed tip version (as U mentinoned) is very simillar like Semitic (Egiptian) bows http://s1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc450/fusizoli/Semitic/ . Like that design too!
On the museum pic schould see the painting on the bow. U think it is painted on the belly side?

The funny thing, some bowyers say it just string bacwards and the other part say no thats right bend.
I would like to try all version and I think they do the same thing ;)

Today found the double curve bow pic here http://www.assiniboinetipis.com/main.html
Title: Re: Fusizoli's double curve ash
Post by: Hawkeye1974 on July 02, 2011, 12:36:24 pm: @ Fusizoli: this is a total newbie question but could something this be made out of ebony or a cherry oak properly?