Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: osage outlaw on June 16, 2011, 05:25:11 pm
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Found this big girl under an old fallen barn door. She was guarding a big egg sack. I usually find one or two a year on our property. This is the biggest one I have ever seen. I hate spiders, but for some reason, I don't mind these. When I worked on an assembly line, I kept one in a container on my work bench. After I took the pictures, I put the door back down and let her go back to her eggs.
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC13831.jpg)
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/clintanders/SDC13825.jpg)
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Cool pics! 8)
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cool.. those are neat spiders... we have lots of them here..
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man that ones eatin size!! >:D >:D >:D
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*bluuup* ohhh sorry I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit... Cool pics though. :)
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man that ones eatin size!! >:D >:D >:D
It's almost double the size that I normally see around here. They sure are pretty. It gave me an idea for a bow finish. ;)
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I thought black widows had hourglass shapes on there belly. Good thing I avoid all spiders since I can"t identify them
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One word : Stomp ! >:( ;D
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Use to have a cousin that worked for a place that furbished pop machines. He's run across them all the time. Put them in a clear 3 foot by 3 inch clear tubes and give them to me. At hte time my boys were small my mom was glad when the was layed off I had them as pets for quite a few years. I've seen some that had way to many babys to count. I kept and had just about everything in NORTH AMERICA at one time or another and some that were from others. But they were the weirdest pets I've ever had. Except for 2 bats I had for a couple months in MEXICO.
She's a beautiful I guess I still have a thing for spiders.
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I am with you Rick stomp, mash, etc. They are poisonous, and can cause death in some people, and although the bite is hardly painful, the resulting pain from the poison is excruciating. The stomach muscles go rigid, and there are very painful cramps. I kill every one of them. We have them down here, naturally, and some big ones. The hour glass is not necessarily on the abdomen. It is the general shape of the spider that will Identify it for sure. It is the only one I know of, of that particular shape body, and legs. In fla. we have the northern, and southern variety of black widow. The southern has the classic hour glass on the bottom side of the abdomen, and the northern has the hour glass on or near the upper part of the abdomen. They also vary in color, there is a grayish, brown, to a rust colored to reddish brown, and of course the glossy black. All have the charistic shape, and an hour glass, or hour glass like marking or markings on it. I saw quite a few of them when I worked as a rent a cop during college, when I was at construction sites, and condos on the beach. They don't have a well defined web, like the orb weaver, or star spiders, but just a sort of mish mash of web strands, and usually a round spikey looking egg sac. I used to see a lot of them in the window ledges here during the summer, but we have a lot of lizards, and it seems to keep them down a bit, plus, I do my part also. ;) They are not as aggressive as some spiders, but usually bite if they are picked up, intentionally, or unintentionally, or are in clothing, bedding,or they get mashed. been bit by the black jumping spiders, the kind with the smiley face on the back, and big green fangs. It ain't pleasant, like a hot wire being jammed into you. I was fishing, and one crawled up my neck, and I thought it was a bug, and I slapped, and it bit the snot out of me. :o :'( I don't bother the wolf spiders you find in the grass, and some smaller spiders, and orbweavers, and such, but the big long legged and big what we call brown roach spiders, I try to run out of the house, or just spray them, or swat them, and then toss them out. They like to get under bedding, and in closets, and under beds etc. 'They will attack if cornered. :o I had one run me around the kitchen table, and into the living room, when I was about six years old, and it was in a coke bottle and I blew down into it. I think it was about then I learned my little girlley scream, and just how fast I could run on two feet, and how fast a spider could run on eight. I don't know about the spider, but I was close to hitting a time warp speed. ;D ;D :o ;D I had them jump on me before, once while getting a can of dog food in the garage, and I almost threw my hand off!! :o Black widows....stomp! ;) I have had the gray funnel type spiders crawl up my legs, while geting hay out of a barn in Zolfo Springs, and never got bit, just dropped my pants, and let the spider crawl out, and go somewhere else! Then checked to see if I could pull my pants back up, without another spider in in them, or if I needed to change them. ;D ;D ::) ::)
Wayne
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Pretty maybe ::) but I am with you Rick ,stomp her and her eggs. :) They are nice pictures tho. :) :)
Pappy
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As big as she is it will still take a bunch to back a bow ::)
Lane
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I've been bitten by widows twice on my hand. Both times squeezed out most of the milky looking stuff out, both times I got nauseous, and had a bad headache. No ill effects beyond that.
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Kill 'em and stomp the nest!
Me and a friend were going fishing one evening and I took an old pair of boots that had been sitting on the front porch with me to wade in. Once we got to the creek I proceeded to stick my bare foot down in one of 'em and felt something "squishy"...it was a big toad frog that had hopped in there to spend the day. I remember telling my buddy, " I better dump the other one, no telling what I'll find in it". I popped the heel on the ground and dumped out a big "widder"! After I made sure it was clean, I put the boot on and smashed it with no remorse at all! >:D
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I couldn't kill it. She didn't do anything to me and they aren't aggressive like a wasp or bee. It is in an old barn that is falling down. If I find them close to the house, I will relocate them to the back part of our place. Maybe if I ever get one in my clothes or boots, karma will help me out a little, who knows. Now, if I ever get bit by one, it's game on!
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I'm with you- relocate it. ;) If I aint eating it, I aint killing it.
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Well, I found another one on the kids rabbit cage. I had to remove it and her egg sack. I was going to take it to work and let it go, but they hatched before I went back. Now I have this.
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I'm with the "Stomp Them Group", unless you can teach your kids not to play with them and to look at every place they put there fingers when they are taking care of thier rabbits.
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The incedence of black widow(and brown recluse) bites declined after indoor plumbing was introduced!
We have them around here. My rock garden is full of them. Since I don't use many pesticides the spiders, wasps, yellow jackets,etc are my pesticides. ;) If we are threatened, they loose! ;)
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Pat, we used to have a cabin in the Big Cypress Swamp, and before we built a water tower, we had an out house. Well whenever I would have to use it, I would take a can of raid, and a lighter with me. At night I would take a flash light also, but I would first I would beat the side of the seat with a stick, and then slam the top lid of the toilet seat, down, and and then lift it and the seat up , and then light the lighter and spray the the raid down into the hole. You could hear all kinds of things dropping down there. :o There were a lot of roaches, :P and there were a lot BIG ol brown roach spiders too! :o I sprayed, and torched them all! I didn't want anything crawling on me, or mistaking anything for a nice juicy bug! ::) I didn't bother to take anything to read. That would leave too much time for something to crawl back up to the top! ;)
Wayne
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I'd server that one up with drawn butter... and a nice chianti. >:D
-gus
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Never had a Problem with Widder's... but them Fiddle Backs....Mash Em..... >:(
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About 15 years ago I kept getting these bites that looked like El Destructos. My wife ended up in critical care from them and I think I had a total of 27 over about 6 months, mostly on arms and stomach. I never could find the spider but the Dr said it was a brown recluse. Looking back I think it was simply staff infection, my wife was a critical care nurse at the county hospital and the virus was very common their.
I think black widows can deliver a dry bite, they are very common in my yard but I had never been bitten until about 6 weeks ago when I was replacing the motor on my Jacuzzi. A big one got me on my shoulder but nothing happened just a bit of redness. I sat around waiting for the symptoms to appear and if they did I was going to head for the hospital but nothing happened. Steve
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Black widow bites are like bee stings. Most people react like Steve unless they are allergic. Brown recluse on the other hand can be real bad. They cause open lesions like El D had or worse and they can persist for years and even pop up on other areas away from the bite. We have tons of black widows here, never been bitten yet.
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Steve...after the Bite ripened to the point of Rupturing like it did...I went to the Doctors again...and they debrided all of the rotten flesh to keep a secondary Staff Infection from setting in...well the one on my Shoulder got infected...the one on "My Buttox" ( said with a Forest Gump accent) didn't...it healed fine...the one on my Shoulder had to be packed with gauze for almost two months ...till it healed from the Inside Out....it went to the Bone damned near.
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ElD, shoulda tried blow fly eggs. Much cheaper than doctor visits. >:D
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Icka.....can You imagine have them Maggots crawling around in there....eewwww..... :P
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I worked in hospitals for seven years in Georgia and the Brown Recluse Spider was a major problem. Black Widows bite were bad but not like, the brownies. A guy came in one night with a hole the size of tangerine on is calf. It was so infected it was amputated.
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Dr told me I was full of crap but something I started doing when I felt those lesions comming on that seems to stop them immediately. The symptoms are very consistent, starts with an itch, then a very intense burning, followed by what looks like a boil. By the time the boil hits a marble size piece of flesh is allready gone if you are lucky. At the itchy or early stages of burning I will get a wet rag as hot as I can stand it and hold it over the burning area, I rotate 2 rags keeping both very hot, takes about 5 min but when you are done it is done period at that very moment. Like I said Dr doesn't agree with this but it sure as hell seems to work about 100% of the time.