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Title: Check out these curves!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 07, 2011, 07:50:11 pm
Hey all this is my first attempt at a recurve. Its 62" ttt. I have to admit the stave was twisted and kinky when I started, plus there are a few solid knots that impede my bend. The tiller checks out fine gizmo wise, but looks funky? Please enlighten me recurve vet's. Its 40# @ 20" now. My goal is 50-53# at 28.5".
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: seabass on June 07, 2011, 07:57:19 pm
hey pearl,i think it is looking pretty good.i just did my first the other day.i have a little twist to deal with,but so far so good.i also have a small drying check.i am going to sinew back it just for insurance.anyway good job,steve
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: ErictheViking on June 07, 2011, 08:06:54 pm
Very nice recurve, Tiller looks good to me. But I have a problem seeing bad spots til someone points them out ;D. If the gizmo checks out then it should be o.k.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: blackhawk on June 07, 2011, 08:09:55 pm
Looking good from here. The gizmo don't lie. I think what your seeing funky is maybe a wee slight twist. But that's where the gizmo shines and if I know there's a lil twist ill trust that more than" it looks a lil funky".   Continue on. And hurry it up,cus I wanna see that bad girl all purtied up.  :)
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 07, 2011, 08:37:09 pm
That left limb has a very funky knot area that is almost twice as thick as the rest of the limb, it had to be left that way. That could also be what is catching my eye as wrong? Blackhawk about 1/3 of my curve pulled out. I havent let it sit unbraced to see how much comes back. Not much dissapoints me anymore, if it bends even, shoots an arrow and doesnt hurt anybody............Im happy. So I lost some curve?  Whoopee.....
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: osage outlaw on June 07, 2011, 08:43:49 pm
The reason the tiller looks a little funky to you is because it isn't bending in the middle ;D   I was beginning to think you were strictly a D-bow man.

Looks good to me.  I need to try recurving some osage someday.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 07, 2011, 08:50:38 pm
Your probably right Clint! I love my D bows dearly.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: blackhawk on June 07, 2011, 09:01:43 pm
If ya lost some curve then you might've thinned the curves too much. If its dried out you could clamp it back down on your form and use dry heat and lightly toast it. And id stay away from taking anymore material off the curves if your still tillering and removing material. But if it ain't too bad and it don't bother ya then just let it be and just make sure next time ya leave a lil more meat for the curves. I can't shoot recurves for crap but I love the way they draw smooooothly and hit hard upon release.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: rover brewer on June 07, 2011, 09:25:23 pm
To me it looks like its not exactly centered on your tillering tree but looks great to me.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 07, 2011, 09:33:02 pm
Its not centered. Its a 1" wide piece of wood which represents my hand. I pull the string in the center where my 3 fingys would be. It best represents me drawing which makes it balance perfectly in my hand.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: IndianGuy on June 07, 2011, 11:13:05 pm
very nice  8)
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 07, 2011, 11:54:39 pm
Bad news. One of my knots on the side of the limb gave way and started a slight hinge. I stopped right there and wrapped it in artificial sinew. I will have to sinew back it, or rawhide if I plan on keeping her alive. That knot wont last. Its the left limb about 12" past the handle, you can see the color swirl.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: gstoneberg on June 08, 2011, 12:23:32 am
Knots in the limb edge can be trouble.  I'm sorry to hear that.  Any chance of a close-up on the problem spot?

George
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: George Tsoukalas on June 08, 2011, 01:02:41 am
I think it looks very good. Jawge
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: blackhawk on June 08, 2011, 09:42:20 am
Im no diagnosis expert. But I recently had something similar happen to a sinewed back bow while shooting it in(which was a lil frustrating cus it was all nicely tillered out). I had a spot where there was a knot and it had some "punky" wood in it,and it gave way a lil bit and slightly hinged. Not sure if you have the same issue here. But if you do then backing ain't gonna save it cus its the compression wood that has some bad wood in it. I had to remove the bad wood all the way thru to the neutral plane and glue in a patch.

Here's a great link to put a patch in a bow limb.

http://www.bowyersedge.com/patch.html
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 08, 2011, 10:05:36 am
Its alot like that blackhawk. The bow was tillered very well and I shot it several times. Suddenly my bottom limb gave way and I lost 10# of draw instantly. I think your right, this one is going to the corner of shame. The stave wasnt centered with the grain from the start and I had no way to change that. The knot should have been in the center of the bow instead of on the edge. Oh well, I learned a few things in the process.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: blackhawk on June 08, 2011, 10:19:36 am
I def feel your pain. Mine was/is a sinewed bow which you know a person puts a lot into it. Mine collapsed on the tenth shot. It was shooting awesome too,and my heart sank. I set it in the pile of shame for a couple weeks before I patched it,and it now proudly wears a ipe mole on a sinewed HHB bow(a beauty mark so to speak).   You might be able to still save her. But I don't know how bad it is or what that spot looks like.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: Pappy on June 08, 2011, 10:44:17 am
Sorry to hear that,I thought it was looking pretty darn good. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 08, 2011, 12:07:24 pm
Dang PD, what a crying shame...that Osage was looking so sweet too!  Are you running low on Osage?  I can bring you a stave when I "swing by" for a bow build one of these days.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 08, 2011, 12:53:54 pm
Im always low on osage Lee. I have hackberry,mulberry, black locust, HHB, elm,ash and walnut coming out my ears. I would love to have one of yours when you come over this way for a build. Thank you
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: bigcountry on June 08, 2011, 02:16:56 pm
Had a simular thing with a kids bow.  Everything was going great, and then right in front of my eyes, I saw a hinge at a knot while on the tree.  A few sec later, POW.
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: Lee Slikkers on June 08, 2011, 02:34:48 pm
Im always low on osage Lee. I have hackberry,mulberry, black locust, HHB, elm,ash and walnut coming out my ears. I would love to have one of yours when you come over this way for a build. Thank you

No worries bud, what goes around comes around...happy to help!
Title: Re: Check out these curves!
Post by: ErictheViking on June 08, 2011, 02:47:49 pm
That definately sucks PD.  looked really good.