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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: Pat B on June 05, 2011, 04:32:13 pm

Title: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 05, 2011, 04:32:13 pm

Well, here it is. Once the handle finish dries well I'll use my Lansky Sharpening System to put a good edge on it then I can see if my "heat treating" is good enough.  :D   Not too shabby for my first real knife making, if I say so myself!  ;D
  I learned a bunch of stuff while making this one. The next should be a bit better.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/firstknifefromedgerblade001.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/firstknifefromedgerblade005.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/firstknifefromedgerblade003.jpg)

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: gstoneberg on June 05, 2011, 04:52:56 pm

That looks real nice.  Congrats.  I have one to do too, but I keep making bows. ???  I hope mine is half that good.

George

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 05, 2011, 04:58:50 pm

Thanks George. I can see this has the possibilities to become addictive like bow building.  ::)
I'm all done with my "have to make" bows but now I need to build some "wanna make" bows!  :D

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: gstoneberg on June 05, 2011, 05:18:25 pm

That's all I need, another addiction.  It sure looks fun though.  I have the second coat of finish on my trade bow, once that is off to its new home I can tackle the knife.  Of course, I have 3 other bows in process.  Gotta love it.  Again, nice knife.   George

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Josh on June 05, 2011, 08:39:08 pm

nice knife pat! i like making those edger blade knives. your shape looks really good. :)

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: El Destructo on June 05, 2011, 09:56:24 pm

Turned out really nice Pat...forget about it being your first...and remember...it won't be your last.......... ;D

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: ErictheViking on June 05, 2011, 09:56:42 pm

That is a really nice knife Pat, looks like a good candidate to dress out your deer this season. ;)

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: jonathan creason on June 05, 2011, 10:14:10 pm

Great looking knife, Pat.  If you're not happy with the edge holding capabilities send the 2nd one to me.  I'll heat treat it for you and send it back for you to finish.  I just finished my fire brick forge so I can have it turned around in just a couple of days.

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 05, 2011, 10:51:15 pm

Jonathan do you have instructions for the fire brick forge? I'd like to make a small one for doing this stuff myself.   So far the blade seems to hold an edge. I'll let you know and maybe send the other to you to temper properly.
  I cheated on the shape!  :-[  I traced the knife I got from Bobby Keller a few years ago. I love the shape for an all purpose hunting/skinning knife.
  Josh, the edger blades make it pretty easy to do.  I have some good bandsaw blade pieces that I want to work after I get some experience. I want to make my own trade points too. A lot easier than knapping!  :D
  Thanks Eric and Mike.   Mike, it won't be my last!  ;)   ...like I need another addiction.  :D

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: jonathan creason on June 05, 2011, 11:23:58 pm

It's pretty easy to do, Pat.  Just get 2 soft fire brick and rasp out a section on one side of each, then when you sandwich them together you have your hole for your knife.  Drill a hole in the side of one brick just big enough to fit the tip of a propane or MAPP torch.  I added another brick, which I sawed in half to cover the ends and hold more heat in.  Wayne Coe sells the soft fire brick for $3 each, which is the cheapest I've found, and 3 of them can fit in a large flat rate box.

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: rover brewer on June 05, 2011, 11:50:58 pm

nice job.

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 05, 2011, 11:59:16 pm

Thanks Jonathan. I'll have to give it a try. I'll check locally for soft fire brick. Lots of potters around here.
  Thanks rover.

  These are the tools I used. A large flat file, a coarse half round file, a big hammer and a cold chisel and a small peening hammer(for peening the handle pins). I also use a chainsaw file for the hard to reach areas.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/firstknifefromedgerblade001a.jpg)

...close up of the raw cut-out..
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/firstknifefromedgerblade002a.jpg)

...the raw cut-out with it's finished twin and new sheath...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/firstknifefromedgerblade003a.jpg)

...and how the blades fit in the edger blade...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/firstknifefromedgerblade004a.jpg)

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: swamp yeti on June 06, 2011, 10:12:15 pm

That is a real nice knife,got me wanting to make some more.

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 07, 2011, 01:05:03 am

Thanks Yeti.   I't was nice to meet and shooting with you and your son at Hickory.  8)

Here is the other piece of the edger blade transformed but not tempered yet. I shortened the overall length and gave it a little bit different look. Should make a nice little skinner or neck knife.    I did a bit more file work on this one to reduce the "hump" between the blade and edge and remove some of the pitting.   The handle scales are boxwood I collected(  ::) ) on my landscaping job. I never realized how pretty boxwood is. A nice creamy white with streaks of butter(color) in it...and hard as you know what!!!  :o
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Secondknifefromedgerblade002.jpg)

 (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Secondknifefromedgerblade003.jpg)

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pappy on June 07, 2011, 07:48:27 am

Looks good Pat,got to love working on them knives. :) :) I have got to really enjoy it for a change. :)
   Pappy

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 07, 2011, 09:27:09 am

I'm having fun with it Pappy and wondering how far I want to go with it. Already thinking about making a small oven for annealing and tempering.  ::)  Like we need another hobby!  ;D

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: GregB on June 08, 2011, 10:18:11 am

Careful Pat, knife making is very addictive! You already have the leather skills for the sheath making!

Great looking knife by the way!  ;)

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 09, 2011, 12:51:06 am

Thanks Greg. I could use some lessons from you.  ;)

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Justin Snyder on June 09, 2011, 12:56:07 am

Pretty darn impressive Pat. There isn't much you can't do is there.

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: swamp yeti on June 09, 2011, 12:45:20 pm

Enjoyed shooting with you Pat,keep up that good knife making.

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: cowboy on June 09, 2011, 01:10:27 pm

Well, that's quite the handsome knife Pat. Turned out good..

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: JackCrafty on June 09, 2011, 04:12:20 pm

Like that design!  A lot!  ;D

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: mullet on June 09, 2011, 07:27:37 pm

You did quite good, Pat. Knife making IS addictive. I float between bows, knapping and knives. Keeps it from getting boring. ;)

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 10, 2011, 01:23:44 am

I can feel the hook sinking deeper, Eddie.   Now I need a forge to anneal stock(old saw blades)and temper new blades...and a grinder...and a knife making belt sander...and...  ::)

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 12, 2011, 01:53:36 am

Finished up this one today. I love the boxwood handle. That stuff is very hard and looks like bone or antler. Cool stuff...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Secondknifefromedgerblade002b.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Secondknifefromedgerblade001.jpg)

...compared with its twin...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Secondknifefromedgerblade003b.jpg)

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: El Destructo on June 12, 2011, 02:02:54 am

Nice looking Pair you got there Pat....your hooked!!!

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 12, 2011, 02:10:53 am

Thanks Mike. Yeah, I am. Now I need a good, small, cheap forge to heat metal for tempering and annealing.

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: jonathan creason on June 12, 2011, 12:05:39 pm

Looking good, Pat.  Those boxwood scales do look awesome.  One suggestion I might make is to make your bevel go higher up the blade.  My first several were like you've got there and while they'll take a good edge they're not the most efficient cutters.  The knife dogs and blade forums have a ton of good info.

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 12, 2011, 01:18:27 pm

On the smaller knife I did bring the bevel higher on the blade than the forst one. I'm using files to work these down and I could tell after I tempered the smaller one that it was still not enough. While I was working it it felt good.
  Do I just Google..."knife dog and blade forum"?

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: El Destructo on June 12, 2011, 01:35:00 pm

Pat...this should help you out............

http://knifedogs.com/forum.php?s=e5781d3185adff965eaf60a9137eb365


http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php/789-Knife-Maker-s-Discussion-Forums

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: Pat B on June 12, 2011, 01:47:35 pm

Ah ha! "Knifedog" and "Blade Forum"!  Thanks Mike and Jonathan.

Title: Re: first edger blade knife!
Post by: El Destructo on June 12, 2011, 01:51:34 pm

I know...it's still early haven't got a full pot of Coffee down yet myself........ >:D  ....You are welcome Pat......  ;)