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Title: turkey secondaries?
Post by: JustinNC on April 20, 2011, 12:51:55 am
Eastern woodland two fletch or split them for regular fletchings?
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: Pat B on April 20, 2011, 12:55:19 am
Either!
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: JustinNC on April 20, 2011, 11:17:42 am
I got a lot to process. I may just leave them whole for right now until I finish processing the 5 sets/10 wings worth of primaries I have.
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: sailordad on April 20, 2011, 08:23:01 pm
nice haul

i have 6 full wings in the freezer yet
plus i have a road kill i am getting the feathers from tonight
not to mention i still have t hunt this year yet  ;)
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: Pat B on April 20, 2011, 10:15:34 pm
Justin, save any wing feathers that are 4" to 5" long or longer and I'll show you another Native fletching style.
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: JustinNC on April 21, 2011, 12:59:57 am
Other than the primaries and secondaries? The rest are pretty limp?
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: Pat B on April 21, 2011, 01:01:35 am
Oh ye of little faith!  ;)
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: JustinNC on April 21, 2011, 01:12:25 am
Nay, I trust ye who is long in beard. Ok another question for ya Pat, do you like to keep a little on the back side of your two fletch at the back of the feather or do you just strip the back side clean for your two fletch?
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: Pat B on April 21, 2011, 01:47:05 am
Both.  :D   For a more traditional Native style I do like Patrick showed in his build along. I'm donating a set to the Classic to be raffled off. It is a Cherokee style locust bow with a basket quiver and Cherokee style 2fletch hill cane arrows. Only a dollar a ticket on the raffle table!
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: JustinNC on April 21, 2011, 02:06:48 am
Good thing I'm as pasty pale white as a snowball in a rice bowl. Won't offend no ancestors if I don't leave any on the back. Ha, got 4 more wings and about a dozen more odd balls to split. Might leave a little on the bottoms of those.
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: nclonghunter on April 21, 2011, 10:55:03 pm
Justin, if you have a pair of branch trimmers, the small hand held pruning type, then take them and start cutting across the quills as high as you can get. You  can get all those feathers off without pulling and twisting and cursing and messing up those beautiful feathers. They won't look like good writing quills with the last inch or so missing, but much easier to clip them off.
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: JustinNC on April 21, 2011, 11:12:35 pm
That's a good idea. I've been using wire cutters.
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 22, 2011, 12:15:28 am
Eastern Two Fletch for Me !! Love them !!
PatB , I await your reveling of other good info !!
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: JustinNC on April 22, 2011, 01:01:21 am
You want me to bring em with me next week?
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: Pat B on April 22, 2011, 02:10:45 am
Buckeye, here is one option with smaller feathers. I believe it is called a tangential 3 fletch...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/tangential3fletch005.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/tangential3fletch006.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/tangential3fletch008.jpg)

this is a primitive arrow James Parker gave me a few years ago with this type of fletching.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/tangential3fletchJamesParker001.jpg)
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 22, 2011, 06:51:46 pm
aah yes
I have been wanting to try that with pheasant feathers since there so plentifully for me
Just love the two fletch so much that I have not got to it yet
Maybe this weather will let up enough to do it soon
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: JustinNC on April 24, 2011, 12:03:08 pm
Pat I've been posting from my phone, but finally got a chance to see what you were talking about last night. Is that not a traditional 3 fletch except tied instead of glued? Couldn't see it all that well
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: JustinNC on April 24, 2011, 12:03:23 pm
Pat I've been posting from my phone, but finally got a chance to see what you were talking about last night. Is that not a traditional 3 fletch except tied instead of glued? Couldn't see it all that well
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: sadiejane on April 24, 2011, 02:18:25 pm
Buckeye, here is one option with smaller feathers. I believe it is called a tangential 3 fletch...
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/tangential3fletch005.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/tangential3fletch006.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/tangential3fletch008.jpg)

this is a primitive arrow James Parker gave me a few years ago with this type of fletching.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/tangential3fletchJamesParker001.jpg)


pat-thanks for posting these. i have lots of smaller feathers and tho i use em on other projects too, i keep thinking there's gotta be some way to use em for fletching.
after thumbing thru the encyclopedia of native amer bows arrows and quivers(both vols) a zillion times by now(they are beginning to get worn and ive only had em a cupla months)
they obviously used whatever feathers they had on hand. yes, of course, many are "traditional' fletches but they used all sorts of "other" feathers too.
thanks!!
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: Pat B on April 24, 2011, 02:58:50 pm
Justin, I'll show you in person on Thursday!  ;)
  If you think about it, all the fletching does is slow the rear of the arrow so the arrow flies point first. Anything that will add drag to the arrow will work as fletching. Why waste useable feathers if they will work. The "fiberglass" mentality says to only use the best of the flight feathers to get the best arrow flight. How good does it have to be for a 20 yard or less shot.(hypethetical)
Title: Re: turkey secondaries?
Post by: JustinNC on April 24, 2011, 11:44:33 pm
Justin, I'll show you in person on Thursday!  ;)
  If you think about it, all the fletching does is slow the rear of the arrow so the arrow flies point first. Anything that will add drag to the arrow will work as fletching. Why waste useable feathers if they will work. The "fiberglass" mentality says to only use the best of the flight feathers to get the best arrow flight. How good does it have to be for a 20 yard or less shot.(hypethetical)

As I said, I shall trust ye who is long in the beard.  ;)  I have another crazy idea I will try on some cane when I get more time, using less than primo feathers.