Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: half eye on April 09, 2011, 11:04:20 pm
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Hey fellas,
Here's the lastest bow. Part of a trade I made with thomas h. The first pic post is some shots for the color scheme, the last two pics are of a genuine bow, and a pair of crow leggings (where I got the design pattern from). Second set of pics is the usual unbraced/ braced/ full draw etc.
Tom said to make the bow 40# @ 25" and that's what she came in at. It's a self bow of ash, and the double curves were steam bent. I have relieved the top limb to even the bend out since looking at the full draw pic. The bow was smoked, and greased. the paint is acrylic, and then "knocked the new" of it with a little 600 grit. Final finish is 4 coats of mink oil.
Hope ya like it Tom,
rich
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rest of the pics
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im speechless that is beautiful, man i cant Waite to get my paws on that thanks rich now i have a real great collection of bows.
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nice bend man
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damn nice bow Rich , great job
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MAN you keep amazing me rich! Very nice paint job. Nice curves too!
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Thomas is a lucky man. love the braced and full draw. makes me want to paint one of mine. excellent job
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Rich that's an amazing looking bow... WOW!!
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Thanks for compliments fellas, I'm really glad that ya like it Tom. I guess I can actually make a bow without hackin on the edges, eh? :D
rich
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one of my favorite bows in a while, very nice sir, the paint job came out exellent. I thought double curve was like a gull wing, or is that triple curve?
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Legionnaire,
I based this bow on the artifact pictured in the first set of pics, it was cataloged as "double-curve" so thats what I called it. This bow's shape is similar to the woodland "double curves" of the Algonquian and Iroquoian groups who had them, and they were the same profile, just a lot more subtle.
rich
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Wow! Wow! Wow! :o Nice Rich Nuttin ealse I can think of to say
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Very nice curves. Like it a lot,I might try something like that on my next.
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Wow is right! George
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Jeez rich, you really pump out those bows, thats one of the best i've ever seen, really my style:)
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Wouldn't be surprised if the artifact is strung backwards since no Plains bow I know of has that deflex/reflex profile.
No reason why it doesn't work either way although authenticity is questionable.
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very nice Rich and you are a lucky man tom.
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Another nice one Rich.
Jeff
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Very nice Rich. You paint some nice artwork.
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Thank you again for the nice comments.
Pat@ I'm aware of the museums going for the backwards string placement, especially on the "gull-wings" but I believe the bow I posted the pic of is in the correct attitude for at least two reasons. First; the static tips maintain their reflexed position at brace, and I'm sure the Native bowyer did not deflex the tips. Secondly; the designs are only on one side, and as pictured that is the back of the bow which I believe to be correct. Thats why I took the bow's attitude at brace to be correct. Recently I also found some strange shaped self bows and am offering those pics , because I never saw the like of them either......I'm starting to think there are whole lot of bow styles I'm not even familiar with.
Hope ya guys like these "different bow types, maybe ya allready seen them. #1; A Wintun (poss. Patwin) from central Clifornia #2, Olympic Salish self bow (note the diamond fineals) #3; A R/D Sioux which to me looks like are "modern" static recurves.
rich
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Yep, ,what can I say! another quality NA bow, dont see as it could be strung opposite.... Rich, you could kit out a whole tribe single handed...
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Looks good from here.
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i really like that last one !!
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As always Half Eye just AMAZING!!!!! Bravo!!!
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Very nice work as always!
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I have to give this bow style a shot.
Can i ask for some rough dimensions and cross section imformation please? I have access to lots of ash to try them out.
Thanks and they are all lovely bows.
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Fellas,
Here are the dimensions for this bow.....white ash, steam bent. I did not build the bow to these dimensions, they were just taken off of the finished bow.
50-1/8" ntn
1.38" wide at grip (4" long)
.77" wide at the tip, straight taper from the grip to tip
.525" thick at the grip (no identifyable "fade" )
.450" thick at mid limb
.41" thick at base of the recurve
.455" thick from base of recurve to tip.
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I'm sorry, I forgot the question about "cross-section"....the bow has a lowcrown back and belly with squared-off edges. The wood is quartersawn Northern Ash (tight ringed)
rich
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Wonderful bow, Rich, as always.
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Thanks for all the info :)
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I'll tell ya what Rich, you can "hack out" a bow for me anytime, great job, Bub
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Thanks once more for the wonderfull comments, and bubby it aint one lick nicer than ones you posted.
rich
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all the same Rich, that's a good'n, Bub
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Thanks for posting those great pix Rich! Living here in the Pacific NW, I have never seen a Salish bow (Chief Seattle was Salish) and now that I have, it just looks Salish. It really resembles their art and other objects. Growing up near near the Yakama reservation, I have only seen one photo of a Yakama bow (attached) and it resembles (from a distance) the plains bows. Even in their tribal cultural museum they don't have any examples of Yakama bows. It is such a shame that a lot of this information has been lost. This forum and people like you are such a treasure for keeping this information and artform alive hopefully for many more generations. Although I dare say future archeologists are going to be very confused what with all the mixing of various bow types worldwide partly as a direct result of this and other forums where we all share information and influences ;D
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Oh Forgot to mention, Sweet Bow!! Love the spots and crow tracks! Looks like all that snow you had this year is finally going away too.
(Wish our rain would go away. I'm about to start buildin an ark!)
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randman,
Both the bows in your pic look like classic plains "gull-wings".....but anyways, found 2 more Salish bows so here's the pics if they help ya any. I did notice that one has a waisted grip, and one does not and the other has the waisted grip but not the statics.....aint got a clue as to why either. anyways here's the first two and I'll get #3 downloaded here shortly.
rich
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was there ever a race that could compare to the magnificence of the native American and there culture.
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You know I like it! ;D
-Prof
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Rich
I've replicated this bow (the original one) from ash with 45 lenght. Haven't found the origin of the pic U ve posted. Would U be so kind to tell me where can I find it?
Now the bow is near ready, just a day or two and put the top coat on it. :)
It feels about 55-60# at full draw.
Thanks Z
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Rich, killer bow...those photos from the museum are spectacular.