Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Arrowind on March 06, 2011, 12:38:25 pm
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I used to play Dungeons and Dragons with my brothers when I was growing up. Lord of the Rings is my favorite movie. (I consider all three to be one long movie) I think these interests are just another reason I like making bows. It's like the ancient bowyer building a weapon to hunt with or for defense.
My brother was excited to hear I had started making bows and we started joking around about being a "Level 1 Bowyer". He asked, "So are you level 2 yet?" and started laughing. We had a conversation about what the requirements would be to "gain levels" in Bowyer skill.
Here's just a fun list of what I've come up with so far....
Level 1
Make a successful bow
Make your own string.
Level 2
Make a bow from two different woods
Make your own arrow (more of "Fletcher" task I guess. I just think that a Bowyer should be able to make arrows too)
Make a bow and arrive at goal draw length and weight.
Level 3
Make a bow from three different kinds of wood.
Make two different kinds of strings. Endless loop and Flemish twist.
Make a dozen matching arrows.
I'm just having fun with this....I'm sure there could be many other combinations or requirments... maybe some of you Level 20 Bowyers out there have some ideas. Different styles, types of designs for bows, ELB, recurve, flat bow, board or stave, wood bending, different kinds of finish, arrow spine, arrow speed, cast, amount of set, accuracy, draw weight, different materials, handle style, tips, etc etc etc....
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Cool idea... Reminds me about playing lots of computer games when I was younger... I think that I may be a level 3 bowyer right now... Lol:)
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Looks like I'm at a level one !!!
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Cool idea. I have no idea what level I am, but I like your line of thinking. Always working towards goals and doing your best, putting out your very best effort, is something that keeps this fun and challenging, and always different. This site is a great place to learn. Seeing people post their bows is great, the ideas, knowledge, and skill of some of these guys is simply awesome. I always keep trying to push things when building. Keep asking what else can I do? What haven't I tried? How can I make this better? Just keep having fun and LEVEL UP! ;D
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Great. You just challenged me to make a dozen arrows to complete my level 3 bowyer
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Great. You just challenged me to make a dozen arrows to complete my level 3 bowyer
Not to be a picker Outlaw, but I beleive it says 'A Dozen MATCHING Arrows'. >:D
Good Luck ;)
Bevan R
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'Make a bow from two different woods' is ambiguous.
Do you mean a laminated bow of two differnt woods? Or do you mean make bows of different woods?
I know it's just a bit of fun, but I'm a pedant!
Yeah I think. Make bows of more than one style should be a requirement, and probably enchanted arrows too ::).
I've made an invisible bow, but I can't remember where I put it.
Ah, it's probably under my cloak of stupidity ;D.
Del
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Level 1.5...I've never made a bow from 2 or 3 different woods (nor do I want to) but do make my own shafts. I also make my own Flemish strings. I used to make endless strings. :) Jawge
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'Make a bow from two different woods' is ambiguous.
Do you mean a laminated bow of two different woods? Or do you mean make bows of different woods?
I know it's just a bit of fun, but I'm a pedant!
Yeah I think. Make bows of more than one style should be a requirement, and probably enchanted arrows too ::).
I've made an invisible bow, but I can't remember where I put it.
Ah, it's probably under my cloak of stupidity ;D.
Del
Yes I guess I should have been more clear. What I mean is to build two different bows. One from one kind of wood and another from a different type of wood.
For example. Bow number 1 made from Red Oak and Bow number 2 made from Hickory. And so forth... 3 different bows made from 3 different kinds of wood.
But that also brings up the thought of laminated bows, or composite bows, like from horn and sinew....
I'd love to shoot the invisible bow. Once you find it please post some pics. :D
I was wearing my cloak of stupidity the other day. I works remarkably well....
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Level 1.5...I've never made a bow from 2 or 3 different woods (nor do I want to) but do make my own shafts. I also make my own Flemish strings. I used to make endless strings. :) Jawge
Yes I didn't do a good job explaining the different woods etc. see above post. Based on what I've read and seen on your site.....I'd have to guess level 25+ ;D You are like the Bowyer Master....
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Level 1.5...I've never made a bow from 2 or 3 different woods (nor do I want to) but do make my own shafts. I also make my own Flemish strings. I used to make endless strings. :) Jawge
Yes I didn't do a good job explaining the different woods etc. see above post. Based on what I've read and seen on your site.....I'd have to guess level 25+ ;D You are like the Bowyer Master....
Call him Yoda we can. >:D
Bevan R
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Me shooting invisible bow.
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/funny-pictures-cat-shoots-an-invisible-arrow.jpg (http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/funny-pictures-cat-shoots-an-invisible-arrow.jpg)
Del
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'Make a bow from two different woods' is ambiguous.
Do you mean a laminated bow of two differnt woods? Or do you mean make bows of different woods?
I know it's just a bit of fun, but I'm a pedant!
Yeah I think. Make bows of more than one style should be a requirement, and probably enchanted arrows too ::).
I've made an invisible bow, but I can't remember where I put it.
Ah, it's probably under my cloak of stupidity ;D.
Del
Del. That's the one you sent me. I think I got it. :o At least you "said" you sent it to me >:( Now that I think about it, it did shoot a little sluggish and not very far Maybe 2" in fromt of my feet :D I just hung it on my rack and look at it every day when I walk by ;D
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'Make a bow from two different woods' is ambiguous.
Do you mean a laminated bow of two differnt woods? Or do you mean make bows of different woods?
I know it's just a bit of fun, but I'm a pedant!
Yeah I think. Make bows of more than one style should be a requirement, and probably enchanted arrows too ::).
I've made an invisible bow, but I can't remember where I put it.
Ah, it's probably under my cloak of stupidity ;D.
Del
Del. That's the one you sent me. I think I got it. :o At least you "said" you sent it to me >:( Now that I think about it, it did shoot a little sluggish and not very far Maybe 2" in fromt of my feet :D I just hung it on my rack and look at it every day when I walk by ;D
Yeah, and I had trouble cashing your invisible cheque ;D
Del
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But you did'nt see it bounce either ;D ;D
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I have one setting around here somewhere.
I'm not sure about level 20 but I'm no bowyer. EVEN though I'm pushing 90 to 100 bows. I set a figered out as far as I can remember I've made bows out of 9 types of wood. Hickory #1 with Osage a close second. There just something about hickory bows. I've been told I just have a eye for things. Meaning I can look at something and see it before it's made or the way it's surpose to be. I can see the straight or curve lines that need to be there. I'm no bowyer just someone that likes to make everything useing his own hands. And keep it simple guess thats why I like the primitive way of things.
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I have one setting around here somewhere.
I'm not sure about level 20 but I'm no bowyer. EVEN though I'm pushing 90 to 100 bows. I set a figered out as far as I can remember I've made bows out of 9 types of wood. Hickory #1 with Osage a close second. There just something about hickory bows. I've been told I just have a eye for things. Meaning I can look at something and see it before it's made or the way it's surpose to be. I can see the straight or curve lines that need to be there. I'm no bowyer just someone that likes to make everything useing his own hands. And keep it simple guess thats why I like the primitive way of things.
Not a bowyer??? How about an artist? It's interesting to find that when it comes to a trade or skill the people who are fairly knew usually think they know more than they really do..."oh I'm an expert..." (generally speaking) and the people who have quite a bit of experience and truly know so much more tend to realize how much more there is to know and will be very hesitant to call themselves an expert. I love it. Humility seems to set in over time. Or at least sometimes. It does seem though that people on these forums are down to earth generous humble people that just love making bows so much they gotta share it!
I've heard that having an "eye" is very hard to teach if not impossible. It's something you're born with.... A nice gift to have my friend. Thanks for your comments.
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gotta figure out damage levels vs. poundage. my 56 lb osage long bow with a wensel woodsman does 2d10 at 20 yds.
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Is this basic D&D, AD&D, AD&D 2nd Edition (my favorite), 3rd Edition, 3.5?
I guess I'm a level 2 bowyer. Which dice do I roll for hit points, hopefully the 1d10 like a fighter ;D
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@ Del: That picture is too funny.
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gotta figure out damage levels vs. poundage. my 56 lb osage long bow with a wensel woodsman does 2d10 at 20 yds.
Hilarious! Nice bow. You could drop an ogre with that thing!
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Is this basic D&D, AD&D, AD&D 2nd Edition (my favorite), 3rd Edition, 3.5?
I guess I'm a level 2 bowyer. Which dice do I roll for hit points, hopefully the 1d10 like a fighter ;D
2nd Edition of course! First you have to role a saving throw to see if your bow breaks. Bows made by Higher level Bowyers get automatic saves.... ;D
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Great. You just challenged me to make a dozen arrows to complete my level 3 bowyer
Yeah....I think that one will be the tough one for me. I'm almost wondering if I shouldn't have put that one in....I like making bows more than arrows... NOPE! Got to make arrows! I have to force myself. MAKE ARROWS!
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Me shooting invisible bow.
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/funny-pictures-cat-shoots-an-invisible-arrow.jpg (http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/funny-pictures-cat-shoots-an-invisible-arrow.jpg)
Del
Awesome bow. You got the tiller spot on! What did you use on the tips? Dog bone? How many coats of finish did you need to give it that...transparent look?
Cool pic!