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Title: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: dwardo on March 01, 2011, 11:15:52 am
Hi All,

Its been a long time since i had chance to play with any bows due to the arrival of my baby boy :)

Ok, its a scrap bit of yew that i de-crowned for various reasons one being some pretty healthy chainsaw scars down the back of the bow :(
I intend to back the bow with silk and if any wood will hold up to a de-crowning i am told its yew.

I think its about 65 inch long and i steamed in some re-curves and evened up a deflexed limb. Pulled out here to about 16 inch where its 48lbs. To be honest i dont want it anywhere past 50lbs and a bit if i can help it. Is it just a case of getting the outer limbs beinding more or?

All comments welcome, except about the state of my garage ;)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/IMAG0713.jpg)

Resting, doesnt seem to be taking too much set at the min but i guess time will tell
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/IMAG0714.jpg)

Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: Matt S. on March 01, 2011, 11:33:45 am
I am definitely no expert, especially when it comes to recurves, but I think the tiller looks pretty darn good. I wouldn't touch the inner limbs any since it seems they are bending enough right out of the fades, so I would focus more on mid to outer limb.

I'm sure someone much more experienced than I will chime in and give you some better advice though.

Anyway, looking good and congratulations on the baby boy!!!
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: Pappy on March 01, 2011, 11:42:33 am
All I can see is big red x's.
   Pappy
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: Sparrow on March 01, 2011, 11:50:14 am
I am seeing the limb in the left side of the photo working more than the right.Seems to be bending more in there towards the handle than the other limb. I don't know enough to tell whether thats good or bad.I really like the design and look of this bow. Good luck !   More guys will chime in today I am sure.  '  Frank
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: dwardo on March 01, 2011, 12:27:27 pm
All I can see is big red x's.
   Pappy
strange, its hosted on photo bucket..
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: Pappy on March 01, 2011, 12:30:27 pm
Looks pretty good to me,maybe get the outer1/3 working a little more as you move closer to your draw length. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: dwardo on March 01, 2011, 12:47:30 pm
Thanks for all the replies guys, will have a scrape later and re-post.
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: dwardo on March 03, 2011, 08:07:12 am
This is out to 21 and is 50lbs still. I seem to be taking off loads of wood but the weight stays the same!
Can anyone point out any flabby bits i can loose some weght on? Sorry about this step by step tiller but the bow i made just before my lad was born blew up and its knocked my confidence a little.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/IMAG0720.jpg)
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: Pappy on March 03, 2011, 09:08:55 am
That is looking pretty good to me,just keep doing what you are doing,slow and don't take to much at a time,sometimes it will loose a bunch all at once. :) I like it when they work out like that,just have to keep things even and reduce some weight. :) :) 
   Pappy
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: Matt S. on March 03, 2011, 12:00:44 pm
The bend between the limbs is dead on, each limb mirrors the other perfectly. I'd say at this point just slowly remove wood to get to your draw weight @ length.

Sorry about this step by step tiller but the bow i made just before my lad was born blew up and its knocked my confidence a little.

I know what you mean, after destroying a couple of bows the last few get my heart pumping when on the tillering tree!
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: Cameroo on March 03, 2011, 01:42:07 pm
The right limb looks a bit stiffer, but I'm guessing that's by design, and will be the lower limb, judging by how you have the handle off-center on the tree.  If you're happy with the tiller (looks good to me), then don't target "flabby bits", just keep slowly scraping the entire length of the limbs.  As Pappy said, keep it even :)

Nice bow by the way!
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: dwardo on March 03, 2011, 03:49:02 pm
Out to 22 at the minute, 10 scrapes each side and it laughs at my attempts to reduce weight.
I will keep going steady as suggested thanks again all.
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: dwardo on March 05, 2011, 08:53:42 am
53@28 ! :) Thanks to you lot!

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/IMAG0743.jpg)

Just got to crack out the facemask and sand her up, add some overlays and a black silk backing, varnish matt back gloss front, handlewrap... Didnt sound like much left to do until listing them all :)
It took about an inch and a half/2 inch of set in the end. I suppose i could heat treat in a little reflex but i dont want to put any more load on this bow as i dont want to risk blowing it up or ill be heart broken.

Will post some better pictures when she is dressed.
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: Cameroo on March 05, 2011, 01:50:54 pm
Looks good!  There's nothing wrong with an inch and a half of set, makes for a nicer shooting bow I  think.
Title: Re: Tiller check please
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 05, 2011, 03:01:49 pm
Very good. Jawge
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: dwardo on April 04, 2011, 09:10:43 am
Hi All,

Sorry its been a while but i finished this a bit ago and hadnt had chance to get any pictures up until now :)

I managed to get away in the canoe for a weekend up north so took a few pictures there and at home.

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/IMAG0772-1.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/IMAG0764800x479.jpg)
(http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/?action-view&current=IMAG0761800x479.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/IMAG0761800x479.jpg)
(http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk475/elevenses1/Loch%20Trool%20April%202011/DSC01566.jpg)
(http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk475/elevenses1/Loch%20Trool%20April%202011/DSC01579.jpg)

(http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk475/elevenses1/Loch%20Trool%20April%202011/DSC01577.jpg)

Thanks for the help all.
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: Del the cat on April 04, 2011, 09:18:21 am
looks V good to me, I'd be hard pressed to find anything at all to even query, except maybe you beverage of choice ::).
Del
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: dwardo on April 04, 2011, 10:53:54 am
Thanks Dell.

Gotta disagree about the Hino its mothers milk i tell ya..  ;)
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: Matt S. on April 04, 2011, 01:27:03 pm
This bow came out great, good job! (and beautiful scenery!)
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: ErictheViking on April 04, 2011, 01:28:23 pm
Don't know what "hinto" is but the bow looks mighty fine. love a yew bow no matter what shape, and that one is sweet.
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: Elktracker on April 04, 2011, 02:18:58 pm
Looks great! Cool pics looks like a nice area

Josh
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: profsaffel on April 04, 2011, 02:49:34 pm
Is the stump... dead?  :-\






 ;D Nice bow.
-Prof
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: bubby on April 04, 2011, 02:59:39 pm
I gotta agree with Del on all counts,great bow, bad choice of beer ;D, Bub
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 04, 2011, 04:19:47 pm
The bow is awesome. I just read your first post. Congratulations on the birth of your son.  That is a special time. :) Jawge
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: dwardo on April 04, 2011, 06:25:20 pm
Thanks for the kind words all and yes the stump was dead, finished it off with the axe for good measure ;) also helped to retrieve a lost field point too.
Some more less tiller check looking shots and more scenery ones for those who like the woods :)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/DSC01582.jpg)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/ULLLLDSC01562.jpg)

(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/DSC01535.jpg)

I will stop as i could bore you all with them all day.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: cowboy on April 04, 2011, 08:49:39 pm
I like the woods dwardo - post some more. Man that lake looks enviting ;D. Great job on your bow - looks like a keeper..
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: DEllis on April 04, 2011, 09:11:22 pm
Beautiful bow.....and the scenery is anything but boring. Nice looking country there.
Darcy :)
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: Keenan on April 05, 2011, 02:00:23 am
very nicely done. Just came across this and must say the advice and the way you worked through it all the way was fantastic. Tiller looks spot on and a very great looking bow. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: dwardo on April 05, 2011, 07:26:10 am
Few more shot and thanks again for the kind words.
Red circle is the target
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/uploadDSC01583.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/uploadDSC01554.jpg)
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/ULLLLLDSC01560.jpg)
(http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk475/elevenses1/Loch%20Trool%20April%202011/DSC01601.jpg)
(http://i311.photobucket.com/albums/kk475/elevenses1/Loch%20Trool%20April%202011/DSC01531.jpg)
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: RidgeRunner on April 05, 2011, 10:57:09 am
dwardo:
Very Nice.  Love the pix.

What type of cook stove do you have?  Is it home made?

Thanks
David
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: dwardo on April 05, 2011, 02:01:46 pm
dwardo:
Very Nice.  Love the pix.

What type of cook stove do you have?  Is it home made?

Thanks
David

Its a sweedish military trangia mate. It runs on meths, very simple very reliable.
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: nativenoobowyer86 on April 05, 2011, 04:30:15 pm
Its been a couple weeks since i have had the time to check the boards, and this is the first one i scope out :) Great job! I am also gettin over some explosive failures, as well as
being blessed with a son :)  Love the bow! i hope your confidence has bumped up a few notches.  To gain mine back i started a white oak pyramid flatbow, gotta love uniform thickness :)
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: dwardo on April 07, 2011, 08:46:23 am
Its been a couple weeks since i have had the time to check the boards, and this is the first one i scope out :) Great job! I am also gettin over some explosive failures, as well as
being blessed with a son :)  Love the bow! i hope your confidence has bumped up a few notches.  To gain mine back i started a white oak pyramid flatbow, gotta love uniform thickness :)

Thanks and congratulations on the boy ;)
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: Parnell on April 07, 2011, 01:07:10 pm
Very nice looking bow and really am enjoying those pictures.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: Orkraider on April 07, 2011, 06:53:08 pm
That bow looks great. The tiller came out perfect.  Excellent craftmanship start to finish, and the pretty bits are sharp.

I want to go shoot where you went on your canoe trip.  I'm writing this from a computer at street level in down town saint paul, but looking at your beautiful pics of the woods made me all relaxed and happy.

Well done.
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: Pappy on April 08, 2011, 08:12:21 am
Beautiful bow,glad it all worked out for you. Great pictures also,beautiful country. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Tiller check please NOW FINISHED
Post by: dwardo on April 08, 2011, 08:27:36 am
Thanks again all. Just noticed this my self but did anyone else spot the arrow still in flight!? Lucky shot, see below white and black fletch
(http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o218/dwardo/uploadDSC01583.jpg)