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Main Discussion Area => HowTo's and Build-a-longs => Topic started by: hillbilly61 on February 20, 2011, 07:53:49 pm

Title: Molly Build
Post by: hillbilly61 on February 20, 2011, 07:53:49 pm

 Well I thought I would try a build-a-long. Going to try for 50# @ 27" 52" n2n.  This is a backing experament. I don't know what the abbreviation would be since I'm using a luonn (flooring under-layment) backing on Hickory. I reckon it would be LBH :-\

The hickory is 3/4'  and the luonn is 3/16" I've used TB11 on both pieces.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0220111006.jpg)

Then I wraped in stretch wrap
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0220111025.jpg)

The next is wrapping the bands around the whole length
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0220111054.jpg)

The last thing for today was to induce some reflex. I put the tips on a block of 2x2 and clamped the middle down. Then slit the stretch wrap to give some drying area between the bands
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0220111129a.jpg)


If time allows tomorrow I'll draw the pattern  and maybe get it cut out. ;D

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: half eye on February 20, 2011, 11:34:45 pm

way cool Hillbilly, can't wait to see how this turns out......
rich

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: gstoneberg on February 21, 2011, 01:19:13 am

Neat idea.  Isn't lauan a plywood?  I've used it under tile many times, never thought of backing a bow with it.  Sure hope it works out well.

George

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: hillbilly61 on February 21, 2011, 09:00:58 am

thanks Rich and George, It is a plywood but I think it's a little tuffer. Pretty much an experamentall backing ;)

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: hillbilly61 on February 21, 2011, 09:38:55 pm

Day 2. Got the pattern drawn out
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0221111711a.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0221111712.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0221111711.jpg)

Started cutting it out and, POP went the band saw blade :'(
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0221111736.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0221111735.jpg)

Going to try and get a new one tomorrow

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on February 21, 2011, 10:23:51 pm

Build on brother....I have some hickory that I plan on doing the same with.  Just not going to back it.

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: tattoo dave on February 22, 2011, 11:37:59 am

Cool build-a-long! lookin forward to the rest of it. Luan board is typically made from a mahogany, can't remember which type of mahogany though.

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: gstoneberg on February 22, 2011, 12:08:47 pm

That's what I remember too, but the mahogany layer is quite thin, basically a veneer if I remember right.  I'm thinking it is a 3 layer plywood with 2 thin exterior layers (one being mahogany) with a thicker center layer?  Been awhile so I could certainly be wrong.  For its thickness I remember it being pretty strong.  I'm really curious to hear how it works out.

I hate it when I break a band saw blade in the middle of something.  I usually keep an old blade around so I'm not totally dead.  My current blade is a half inch skiptooth that really goes through osage.  I need to pick up a spare as it's the first one like this I've used and I REALLY like it.  Doesn't cut a curve worth a hoot though.

George

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: hillbilly61 on March 02, 2011, 09:17:21 pm

 OK. Got the blade and got the rest of it cut out.

Tips/levers side profile From fade to tip .75 to .50
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/IMG_1533.jpg)

Front view. Handle 4" x 1" Fades 1.75" to woking limbs. Working limbs 12" into 1.75 lever fades. 9" levers. .75 at fades to .50 at tips.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/IMG_1530.jpg)

Side view. 1" handle. Fades 1" to 1.50" at working limbs. Fades at levers 1.25 1" tapering to .50
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/IMG_1535-2.jpg)

Trying to decide on tip overlays or just nocks. Soon as I decide that, Ill start the tillering.

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: hillbilly61 on March 07, 2011, 09:32:40 am

 Busy weekend so I did'nt get alot done. But I did get the overlays on. I decided on IPE. Made them 6" long and tapered to nothing. .50 wide and.50 high

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0307110551.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0307110552.jpg)

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: Elktracker on March 08, 2011, 02:22:42 am

Im watching this one, nice work so far. What style bow is this?

Josh

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: Stephen Zachary on March 09, 2011, 05:32:48 am

Great looking bow. My son wants one. could you give some rough measurements on limb and handl length

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: hillbilly61 on March 13, 2011, 12:47:04 am

 Looks like the backing aint gonna work :( Didn't think about this part, the layers on the luon started separating as I was exercising the bow between scrappings >:( since I used TB11, I think I'll try to heat the backing off and either leave it without a backing or, try another type :-\ Any suggestions?

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0312112051.jpg)

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: M-P on March 13, 2011, 03:59:29 am

Hi Folks,  Lauan   is also know as phillipine mahogany.   It's not really a mahogany, and there are several species of related trees that get mixed and sold together in the mills.  I've always found it to be quite splintery, brittle and fairly low spG.  It certainly would not have been my first choice as a part of a bow.   ( though as I said several species get sold under the same name and your sample may be denser and stronger than I'm used too.)  I'd suggest removing the lauan and trying something else.   Ron

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: hillbilly61 on March 20, 2011, 11:25:14 pm

 Since the Lauan didn't work, I cut the tip overlays off and planed the  Lauan off, sanded the back down and added a Hickory backing. Tillering is done and worked on the finish today. Super Glued a IPE shelf 1/8" thick on. Back, sides and levers are stained in red mahogany. The belly working limbs are stained using Old English scratch remover for dark woods.  Next will be the Urethane finish and grip.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0320111907a.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0320111907.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0320111908.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0320111905a.jpg)
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/Mobile%20Uploads/0320111905.jpg)

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: half eye on March 21, 2011, 12:14:34 am

Dang Mark,
       Now thats a save sir !!!!! Looks outstanding, dont see any set to speak of and cant wait to see it with the final finish......man it looks good. Have ya shot 'er yet? if it's like most molly's it ought to be a good one.
rich

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: hillbilly61 on March 22, 2011, 10:19:52 pm

 Got it done this afternoon. Came in at 52# @ 27" 53' end to end 51" n2n. For more of the finished pics you can look under the bow forum. Thanks to all that kept an eye on the progress ;D
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/hillbilly061/IMG_1625.jpg)

Title: Re: Molly Build
Post by: Elktracker on March 22, 2011, 10:32:52 pm

Looks nice! I will look forward to the other pics ;D

Josh