Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: Bevan R. on February 12, 2011, 10:22:37 pm
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Saw these posted on e-bay but they are listed as rattlesnake. I asked the seller and he just said he was told rattlesnake. Anybody ID these for me?
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thems bow backing snakes ;D
look like rattlers to me
although im am by no means even close to an expert
wait for NTD,he will know for sure ;)
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Never seen any rattlers look like that! But....I would sure like to have um! ;)
Looks like some kind of bull snake pattern to me,maybe gopher? Sure are perty!
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Not rattlers but I'd use them! ;D
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I would like to use them also but I know I'd be asked what kind of snake and I would like to sound more knowledgeable then the seller is. :P >:D
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Yup. Them's snake skins, definitly snake. I'll go on record with that, snake, sure enough.
Pale as they are, you could paint the back of the bow a bright color and it would show thru nicely. Have seen that done on a few bows lately and I kinda like the effect.
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Speckled rattler, C. mitchellii ? possibly? ??? Can't think of any other rattlers with a pattern close to that. I would be suprised if it was an american rattler, but also defer to NTD - He's a pro at this stuff.
Very cool, though!
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Well guys, sorry to disappoint but I can't nail this one with certainty, but I'm 90% sure it's a Northern Blacktail Rattlesnake.
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I looked at a lot of snake pics and have never seen any like this. Could it be they are bleached? maybe some kind of hybrid?
Also are they tanned or just dried?
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I had thought of the bleached idea but the guy is a seller, no knowledge about the product at all. He also has several and they all look the same. Going to jump and get a set and see for myself. I will post a better (I hope) pic when I get them.
Bevan
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Tim, You must not have looked up the snake I referenced ::) I'm nearly certain now that it's a Northern Black Tail.
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/northernBlacktail.jpg)
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Ok, I found a few more pics and have to say that that is probly what it is. Never seen or even heard to them before.
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Like a lot of rattlesnakes they are EXTREMELY variable. I have never seen all grey and black ones in person. So that's what initially threw me for a loop. It was the pattern on the back that connected the bands on the side that clued me in at first.
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Those look real similar to the rattlers we have here in Idaho.
Tell
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Thanks for the info guys ( I think). And here I just thought there were just a few types of rattlers. have skins from prairie, western, & timber. know there is eastern and cainbrake (?) but never heard of these. Something else to wory about while out in the woods.
Bevan
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There are 16 species of North American Rattlesnake. I have 13 of those in my state. I believe there are 30 species when you count the ones in Mexico, Central and South America. If you count subspecies there are ALOT of rattlesnakes. And no,not something else you'd have to worry about, These aren't in your neck of the woods. ;) They are in mine though.
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Nate...if you can break free and make it up here to Rapid City, I'll get you in touch with the guys and gals at Reptile Gardens. They still have the largest collection of venomous snakes and there are a few things that they don't even have on display! Sorry, you gotta leave your skinnin' knives in the vehicle!
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If I ever make it up that way John I'd love to. I've friends who run the 2 herp facilites nearby, I almost always by pass the general display and get taken into the back rooms, it's usually where the good stuff is. No worries about the skinning knives, I prefer them alive, but am always willing to put the dead ones to good use.
One of the perks of knowing the right people ;) Me with a Mexican Beaded Lizard, for those that don't know, one of 2 venomous lizards in the world ;D
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/446.jpg)
And proof that I don't skin all the snakes I see ;D These are some rattlers that I own. The tigers are showing some breeding behavior, if that works out I'd be one of a handful of people to successfully captive breed them.
Tiger Rattlesnakes
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/101_2263.jpg)
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/tiger1.jpg)
Albino Western Diamondback and Arizona Black
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/cerbatrox.jpg)
One of my sidwinders (my favorite rattlesnake)
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l144/NDanforth83/cerastes.jpg)
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Those are Diamondback Water Snake(nerodia rhombifera) skins.I used to find those all the time in north texas.They would always try to get your fish off your stringer.
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Snakeman,
I was wrong! That's funny too, I asked my herp buddy yesterday what he though they were and he said the same thing, Diamondback water snakes. That was a new one for me :-[