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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: toymaker on February 12, 2011, 10:18:36 pm

Title: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: toymaker on February 12, 2011, 10:18:36 pm: This is my latest try at a bow. It's Ash backed Ash. I glued it up last night and have been shaping and tillering a bit. This is my second attempt at this Ash Ash combo. The first one was a narrower thicker try. I changed the limb shape this go around. 1 3/4" straight limbs out to a foot from the tips then an even taper to 1/2" the last foot. the bow is 61" NTN. I'm shooting for 30lb at 26" draw. I've cut the profile and the width on the band saw. I've got the long string on it and I'm about ready to brace it.
Last bow blew up right after I braced it and started exercising it. I'm a little nervous :o

Any Suggestions on Tillering at this point? Top limb Right.

(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3Tiller1.jpg)
(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3Tiller2.jpg)
(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3Tiller3.jpg)
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: sailordad on February 12, 2011, 10:35:27 pm: looking good
but i would get that off the long string and on to a short one
the long string wont show true tiller properly like a short one will
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: toymaker on February 12, 2011, 11:17:07 pm: I scraped 20 times per limb from midpoint to tips. It looks better to me. i exercised it 50 times then I put the short string on and I exercised it another 50 times.
I think the bottom (left) limb is strong mid limb to tip. What do you think?
(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3braced.jpg)
(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3Tiller4.jpg)
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: Timo on February 12, 2011, 11:24:40 pm: Looks spot on to me!
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: toymaker on February 12, 2011, 11:48:14 pm: That's a great Idea drawing an ellipse on there!
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: ken75 on February 13, 2011, 12:54:32 am: welcome to PA toy , i recognize your name from elsewhere ! i think your tiller is perfect on that one
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: DEllis on February 13, 2011, 01:21:24 am: looks pretty good. And welcome to the forum.......good folks here :)
Darcy
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 13, 2011, 01:29:35 am: Welcome! Tiller is excellent but your brace height seems high. My bows are braced around 7 in string to back of bow.
See Selfbow Care and Tuning. Jawge
http://georgeandjoni.home.comcast.net/~georgeandjoni/
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: JW_Halverson on February 13, 2011, 01:43:03 am: Something in that tiller tells me you ain't too awful damp behind the ears on bow building. >:D

Nice work, I like it
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: Jesse on February 13, 2011, 01:45:15 am: Glad to see you over here Toymaker. The guys on here are the best help you're gonna find in the world :) I post stuff on the other site as well. Nice to get double the feedback. :)
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: toymaker on February 13, 2011, 12:51:53 pm: Quote from: JW_Halverson on February 13, 2011, 01:43:03 am
Something in that tiller tells me you ain't too awful damp behind the ears on bow building. >:D

Nice work, I like it
I am a newbie! I have built one less than stellar tillered kids bow. I have read TBB vol 2 and 4, looked at nearly every build along I have been able to find, watched a bunch of Youtube videos, and I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night ;D
J/K it was actually Tuesday not last night...
A lot can be said for looking at lots of pictures!!!
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: toymaker on February 13, 2011, 12:54:23 pm: Quote from: Jesse on February 13, 2011, 01:45:15 am
Glad to see you over here Toymaker. The guys on here are the best help you're gonna find in the world :) I post stuff on the other site as well. Nice to get double the feedback. :)

Thanks Jesse, I like lots of feedback. Good or Bad It either makes me feel more confident in doing what I need to do or straightens my butt out to do the right thing!
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: Elktracker on February 13, 2011, 01:09:10 pm: Nice to have you here toymaker ;D I hope to see full draw and unbrased pictures when you are done, I have heard ash takes excessive set unless design is right and im going to be getting some ash here soon and never have worked with it. What type of ash is that? Thanks and great job!
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: toymaker on February 16, 2011, 11:53:57 pm: Well I've hit target weight of 30lbs. I think the tiller has gotten a little better. The gizmo is a big help! I've added walnut tips and overlay.
Here's some pictures. With Georges comment and seeing my son hold the bow, I agree the brace height is a little high. It's at 7 3/4". So I need to make another string. It has 1" of set total. It started out with a 1/2" after gluing.
(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3braced2.jpg) (http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3Set.jpg)
(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3FullDraw.jpg)
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 17, 2011, 11:43:46 am: The bow is excellent. But to see a father making a bow for his son is even a more excellent way. I think you just made my day. My youngest daughter, who is 29 years, just said, "Dad, I want to start shooting with you." I'll be making a board bow for her from a red oak board I found in my Dad's shop. Keep up the good work, toymaker. Jawge
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: tattoo dave on February 17, 2011, 12:53:12 pm: Welcome Toymaker, That's a great looking bow! The tiller looks great to me.

Tattoo Dave
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: half eye on February 17, 2011, 01:13:30 pm: Very, very nicely done sir.....any bow for a youngster is priceless, good for you
rich
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: toymaker on February 17, 2011, 03:49:17 pm: Thanks George!
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: Parnell on February 17, 2011, 04:32:27 pm: Tiller looks great and welcome to PA!
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: toymaker on February 18, 2011, 01:04:57 am: Thanks everybody!
Finish sanding done tonight and one coat of finish done. finished pic's soon.
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: toymaker on February 18, 2011, 11:21:14 pm: Well it's done!! It looks done anyway! It needs a couple more coats of finish. It shoots very nice! I've shot about 50 arrows through it. The limbs seem to actually be evening out a little bit more. I'll shoot some more tomorrow and see how it does.
(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3Finished.jpg)
(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3WalnutOverlay.jpg)
(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3WalnutTip1.jpg)
(http://bazillionlights.com/Images/photobucket/Archery/AshBow3WalnutHandle.jpg)

Thanks for the help and the great comments!!!
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: 1776J on February 19, 2011, 12:01:05 am: Welcome to the forum!!!! Great bow! ;)
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: profsaffel on February 19, 2011, 12:28:35 am: Welcome to PA. I like that tip design - quite unique, yet simple and elegant.
Title: Re: Newbie to the forum and bowbuilding
Post by: HickoryBill on February 19, 2011, 12:32:43 am: Welcome to the site! Lots of good folks on here! All the free information you'll ever need!! Your son's bow brings back memories of my dad making bows for me.Thanks for sharing.