Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: NTProf on January 08, 2011, 08:52:29 pm

Title: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: NTProf on January 08, 2011, 08:52:29 pm
You see a lot of people hunting deer with primitive equipment, but is there anyone who hunts other big game with primitive bows - Elk, Moose, Bear, Caribou, dare I say Bison?
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 08, 2011, 09:21:45 pm
Yes ,yes, yes, and yes ,and dare I say yes !!!
I know personally of some of the finest hunters in this country doing these things for many years.
Many of the fine men I know don't do computers so you just don't get to see their work !!
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: Keenan on January 08, 2011, 09:40:28 pm
Yes ,yes, yes, and yes ,and dare I say yes !!!
I know personally of some of the finest hunters in this country doing these things for many years.
Many of the fine men I know don't do computers so you just don't get to see their work !!

I'll add a few more yeses to that.  Look at all the bison and elk that our ansesters used to take on a daily bases.
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: Badger on January 08, 2011, 09:50:18 pm
   A friend of mine took a bison cow with a 50# osage self bow I built him. Kind of a canned hunt but it was interesting to hear how it went. Cow was 600# shot at about 10 yards penetrated both lungs using a modern broadhead. Says she went about 50 yards and her lungs filled up with blood. Steve
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: NTProf on January 08, 2011, 11:03:35 pm
Thanks, guys. I am not doubting it can be done. I just wondered who has done it since you don't see any pictures posted.
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: bcbull on January 08, 2011, 11:42:28 pm
yes it can be done iv killed deer elk moose caribou antalope blk bear and a grizzly and a 2300# bull buffaloand several african game spices  all with a long bow  the key is shot placement and the proper arrow broad head   brock
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: NTD on January 09, 2011, 12:00:43 am
Someone posted a good story not that long ago of an elk Kill. 
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: NTProf on January 09, 2011, 12:43:26 am
bcbull

what bow did you use to kill all those? Wow.
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: bcbull on January 09, 2011, 10:54:06 am
ntd  i shoot a 63  lb yew long bow   brock
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: n2huntn on January 09, 2011, 01:20:09 pm
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,15456.0.html
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: NTProf on January 09, 2011, 03:38:18 pm
n2hutn, thanks for this link!
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 09, 2011, 03:59:06 pm
I hear that question a lot when I show up in 1770's clothing and a flintlock rifle at deer camp.  My usual answer is "Nope, not possible at all.  That's why all our ancestors are dead...starved to death waiting for the laser guided, heat seeking, wireless internet GPS adapted ultra-mag rifles to be invented."

 >:D

If you can hunt it with modern gear you can hunt it with the primitive gear if you adapt, work a little harder/smarter, and know the limitations of the equipment.  You won't see many of the successful primitive equipment hunts in the average Hook-n-Bullet crowd magazines because they are not sponsored by big name manufacturers.  Likewise you won't see it on the Horn Porn channels on cable either....again, those shows are nothing but an extended marketing tool (read: infommercial) for the advertisers.  But if you subscribe to specialty magazines like Primitive Archer for bows, Muzzleloader/On The Trail/MuzzleBlasts for the blackpowder scene you will from time to time see some great articles on us nutjobs that insist on doing it the hard way! 
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: NTProf on January 09, 2011, 04:15:22 pm
JW, well-said!
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: crooketarrow on January 09, 2011, 05:17:49 pm
     Indains did'nt eat just plants for 10,000 years.
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: bucksbuoy on January 10, 2011, 02:13:33 am
Wild life experts dont recommend hunting anything larger then deer with bow and arrow, and judging by all the skeletons I find in the woods of nice bucks with full racks, I might be inclined to agree with them. Personally, its my dream to go to africa and take BIG game with a bow. I think as long as you are shooting a good stout bow, 60+ pound draw, and a 400+ grain arrow, and, and, and, you are a good shot and a responsible hunter, its definitely do-able to take even the largest animals on land.
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: bcbull on January 10, 2011, 11:35:31 am
bucks  boy i agree but ill tell ya now if  ya wanna do that  forget them 400 gr arrow s learn to shoot  800 -1200 gr arrows and 200 gr boradheads  big  for big animals no way id shoot 400 gr arrows on anything smaller than a deer  brock
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: bucksbuoy on January 10, 2011, 04:15:46 pm
sounds like good advice to me brock. What is it like to shoot a big arrow like that? How does it perform?
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: JW_Halverson on January 10, 2011, 09:58:40 pm
Bucksbouy, when I hit the lottery I'll send you the tickets.  I already have the guideservice that is pumped about primitive archery hunting on his leases.  My plan is to go over with just the arrows made up ahead of time and my bow making tools.  I'd like to spend time in a local village making the bow, shooting it in, then hunting with the locals with it!  Mmmmm, gemsbock backstraps over a bushfire, I can almost taste 'em.

BTW, his latest lease has close to 1200 adult gemsbock on it, he reserves it for archery only because there are dozens of set ups where shots average under 20 yds.  I bet I could hit a 400 lb antelope at that range!  Ok, if I were to pop a Valium or two first to take the edge off the shakes.
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: bucksbuoy on January 10, 2011, 10:03:56 pm
JW, Ill start playing the lottery too. That way we can double our chances!
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 10, 2011, 10:20:34 pm
NT
If I can learn how to do pictures on here I will post some from friends for you!
I don't get to do much hunting myself .
They all use normal equipment , 45-60 Lb Osage flatbows and 125-140 grain flint tips on their arrows arrows .
By the way have you noticed how much archery is mentioned in the old testament its full of some good historical info!
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: NTProf on January 10, 2011, 11:41:13 pm
Buckeye, thanks. Would love to see any pictures. And yes, archery is a common phenomenon in the OT, in both narrative and poetic texts.
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: bcbull on January 11, 2011, 11:13:08 am
bucks boy they preform butiful  i shoot insective  ya there is a lot more of a rainbow cuz of the weight but practice everyday i normaly shoot 50 or more shot s a day every day  i teach my brain to put the arrow where i want it   most of the shot s iv made are compleat pass thrus the buffalo was a compleat pass thru as well as all the black bears and moose caribou  elk iv put maybe 90 %  pass thrus  on elk moose bears none of my animals have went over 60- 75 yards 

 up to elk sized   animals  i use a big wood s man or snuffer  the big boys i use the big heads on  im goin to  try takin a water buff  wth the same set up soon  brock
Title: Re: Big Game with primitive equip
Post by: NTProf on January 11, 2011, 12:46:13 pm
bcbull, any pictures of your setup?