Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: JackCrafty on January 07, 2011, 11:47:14 am
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Maybe some of you fintknapping virtuosos can tell me how these were made. These are ancient arrowheads from Asia. They have tips that are burinated.
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not 100% sure but id say much like how the base is done on a dacator. just flake away from the tip in both directions.
cool points and a cool idea!
thanks for posting.
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Thanks Jesse. It looks like pressure flaking to me. But I've only done burins with percussion.
What's a dacator?
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Those are cool. Dont have a clue how you could do that.
Tell
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very cool. thats tough to do . my buddy up here showed me some points he did with burinated tips. he uses static pressure to do it. the flaking tool stays still and the point is pressed into the tool.
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hmmm...
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just spit juice all over the computer when i saw that pat!!!!!!!
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philflitstone over on paeoplanet
recently made some points like that,just around thanksgiving i believe
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Thanks Sailordad.. I'll have a look.
Sorry about that Jamie... (not really) >:D :D
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Wow...now those are really cool looking. Talk about cut on contact >:D
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I think i might have to try this.
If i figer it out i'll probably start makeing my hunting points this way.
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Decators are notthat hard I will post a pic on the said to believed process!
But upon closer inspection my guess and on the above points from the ancient european points I have saw were made from sharp flakes! The would take core blades or flakes that were almost in the shape of an arrowhead then touch them up. If I were going to leave my trade mark I might have done the same way leaving the front left side tip un touched leaving a straight razor edge in place. Make sense?
Russ
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Oh would I like to get my mitts on a hatful of those arrowheads. That, my good people, is what hunting heads look like! Very sweet.
Can you post where in Asia these points originated and a timeframe?
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ahh grasshopper ancient chinese secret
when you can make tip like this you can leave the school
;D
i am gonna try this i think they just pressure flake from the point kinda like fluteing but from front to back on an angle
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JW, these are part of a larger collection of arrowheads from Mongolia, China, and Kazakstan... so I don't know exactly where they originated or if they are from the same area. Out of a hundred or so, only about a dozen were like this. The pictures of the collection were posted on another forum.
I don't know about the time frame. Probably after the atlatl and before the bronze age in Asia. >:D
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Jesse, if you figure it out let us know!!
They (the arrowheads) look to be on the thick side with a diamond shaped cross section just behind the tip? I'm going to try to make this style of tip also. ;D
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Some Decauter tips are done like that. Check out the Art Gumbus site, he shows a Decauter with a tip like that. Bill
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I dunno, the DECATUR points that I looked at just now have burins struck off the tip to create a "chisel" point, not a faceted or multi-sided point.
I tried to create the burinated point last night, and I got close, but nothing like the precise points you see in the picture above. Need nuch more practice... ;D
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Hi all, this is my first post so don’t boo me too much.
It's hard to tell from the photo , are the sides of the tips flat or are they a bit concave ?
If they are flat I say the preform was ground to make that nice strong penetrating point then pressure flaked to put the rest of the cutting edge on .
If they are concave then I think they were flake in someway. I’m no expert, far from it but im going to try to make some that look like them.