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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Frode on December 02, 2010, 07:44:34 pm

Title: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: Frode on December 02, 2010, 07:44:34 pm
Hi all,
I'm finishing up a long Mollegabet (74" ntn), and while it seems right, and shoots nice, I just cant see if I've got the curves evened out all the way.  I surely would appreciate fresh eyes on the subject.  The full draws are at my regular 24".

Thanks much,
Frode
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: John K on December 02, 2010, 07:52:46 pm
Boy i think i'd call it good, whats the relaxed profile look like ?
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: acker on December 02, 2010, 07:58:57 pm
I´m with Jone, think the tiller looks fine .
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: sailordad on December 02, 2010, 08:07:14 pm
Ive never made that styl
It looks good,however if you gave afew
more scrapes on the right limb
middle to outer of the working limb i think it would even it some
but like i said,never made one that style.jmho
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: half eye on December 02, 2010, 08:39:43 pm
Frode,
     I'm with John and Acker.....looks damned fine to me
rich
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: hillbilly61 on December 02, 2010, 08:46:16 pm
Looks good. I think I would leave it alone and call it good.
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: adb on December 02, 2010, 09:12:43 pm
Looks fine to me. Perfection is the enemy of good.  ;D
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: Frode on December 02, 2010, 10:45:58 pm
Thanks, everyone!
@John K; Below is the unstrung profile (tip overlays aren't done yet, functional, but not pretty).
@sailordad; Were you referring to the arrow right or arrow left pic?  That, actually, is the crux of the problem I was having.  I'd think I was seeing a stiff spot on one side, then I'd flip the view and it'd still be there  :o!  Then when I took the photos, I could make the limbs look different just by looking at the screen off center to the left or right.

It's kind of like when you smell something burning, and you can't get the smell out of your head for the rest of the day, even though you're in a different building.  I'd have shaved this down to a 15# bow if I hadn't stopped myself and asked you folks.

@ acker, hillbilly61, half eye, and adb;  Thank you, sirs!

Now, a finish question, if I may,  I have some Tru-Oil, and was thinking of trying it out on this bow (ash).  The Underground Lair isn't very well ventilated, and the Aboveground Lair (garage) is colder than a well diggers..., well, let's just say it's cold.  How warm does it need to be for Tru-Oil to work and dry properly?

Thanks again for your patience and insights,
Frode

Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: sailordad on December 03, 2010, 12:20:12 am
Frode, i was refering to the arrow right pic
but im guessing thats the same limb on the left side with arrow left

Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: Del the cat on December 03, 2010, 11:48:28 am
Blimey, that's as sweet as a nut. Beautiful.
We used to have an expression on the electronics test bench 'Mended beyond repair'
I'm sure we've all had bows where we wished we could wind the clock back a few hours before that mad rasp session.
So I'd say put your hands where we can see 'em and step away from the bow, nice and easy now... :)
Del
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: Steve Milbocker on December 03, 2010, 01:08:27 pm
Thanks for posting this Frode, you couldn't of timed it better. I just roughed one out last night and between your pics and adb's build a long they are a great help. Beautiful bow by the way. How do you determine how thin the outer limbs can be?
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: Frode on December 03, 2010, 02:35:23 pm
Frode, i was refering to the arrow right pic
but im guessing thats the same limb on the left side with arrow left

It is the same  ;D, flipped like I kept doing, till I got cross eyed.  As you point it out, I think I see it, too.

@Del; Thanks! My hands are on the table  :D.  "Mended beyond Repair", that's going over my desk.

@Steve; Thank you!  The bending limbs were the usual shave then test, but I'm assuming you mean the levers, which in this case were part of the experiment.  They started out about 5/8" square at the very tips, and the bow was a dog!  You'd hear sort of a "voof" sound and the arrow would fishtail out slowly, stop about half way and check its watch, then amble on over to the bottom of the target.  After that I just started shaving width and testing.  I went slow, for fear of making the levers so weak they would twist.  Right now they are around a skinny 3/8" at the end, but I think I could take them down to 1/4" wide.  I'll also modify the tip overlays, maybe with some pieces of antler, and take just a bit more weight off the ends.  I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with.

Frode
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: JW_Halverson on December 06, 2010, 11:51:25 pm
Hey Frode...that is a sweet looking bow!  I'd love to carry something as sharp looking as that shooter.  What was the final tiller weight?
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: Frode on December 07, 2010, 10:25:57 pm
...What was the final tiller weight?

 ??? If I measure right, it's come in right about 30#, which still works fine for target, but is short of what I'd hoped for.   :-\
I'll post specs and draw pics under separate cover tomorrow.
Frode
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: Pat B on December 07, 2010, 11:39:50 pm
I'm not very familiar with the workings of this type of bow but couldn't you pike(cut off) the tips and gain a few more pounds? With that much rigid limb tip you should be able to remove an inch or two from each tip to gain some extra draw weight. It will stress your working portion a bit more but if well tillered that shouldn't matter too much.
 I find this style very interesting. It reminds me of a Turkish bow with a flat profile. I can see all sorts of possibilities for useful bastrardization with this design.  ;D
   You've done a fine job on this bow Frode. Well done!  8)
Title: Re: bug eyed, a tiller question
Post by: Frode on December 08, 2010, 08:48:35 am
I'm not very familiar with the workings of this type of bow but couldn't you pike(cut off) the tips and gain a few more pounds? With that much rigid limb tip you should be able to remove an inch or two from each tip to gain some extra draw weight. It will stress your working portion a bit more but if well tillered that shouldn't matter too much.
 I find this style very interesting. It reminds me of a Turkish bow with a flat profile. I can see all sorts of possibilities for useful bastrardization with this design.  ;D
   You've done a fine job on this bow Frode. Well done!  8)

Thank you very much, Pat!
I've never tried piking before, but I did start the levers long with the intent of tinkering, so I think I'll soon find out  ;D!  And I agree, the possibilities are intriguing!
Frode