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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: Lee Lobbestael on November 12, 2010, 10:52:31 pm

Title: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on November 12, 2010, 10:52:31 pm
Come on guys where are all the new sets of arrows?? I love lookin at your guys' arrows and I check every day to see if there are any new ones! You guys are slackin c'mon chop chop!! >:D
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: mullet on November 12, 2010, 11:20:37 pm
 `I have over 300, I don't need to make too many more. ;D

Why aren't we looking at your's?
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: nugget on November 12, 2010, 11:38:57 pm
No doubt
i make new ones when I need them.
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: NTD on November 13, 2010, 12:02:30 am
I've been thinking about spending more time making arrows, been staring at the strunk planer thinking if it's worth the money...3 rivers doesn't have payment option marked "Snakeskins" :(
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Pat B on November 13, 2010, 12:16:20 am
Nate, an $8 thumb plane from Tru-Valu Hardware and a 1x4 with a "V" groove down the center will make an excellent arrow making set from either sawn stock or hardwood shoots. Lot cheaper and more rewarding!  8)
  I generally make arrows in the winter and spring for next years archery and hunting season. If I haven't lost last years arrows by then they usually get sent to friends as medicine arrows to carry in their hunting quiver or decorative arrows to hang on the wall.
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: HoBow on November 13, 2010, 12:18:49 am
Pat- how deep and wide should the "V" be?  I have some red osier shafts I've never done anything with because I'm not sure how to thin them out consistently.
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Pat B on November 13, 2010, 12:25:56 am
Jeff, this is my set up. I think the "V" groove is about 1/4" to 3/8" deep. You will also have an arrow stop at the far end that doesn't protrude above the finished shaft and made of something that won't nick your plane iron if it does hit it. I used a small dowel for the stop.

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/forpa045.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/forpa046.jpg)
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Pat B on November 13, 2010, 12:28:02 am
Here are a few arrows for you Lee...

hunting arrows for 2008
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/forPA008.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/forPA010-2.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/forPA009-2.jpg)

Hunting arrows for 2009(since I didn't hunt at all last year, these were held over for the 2010 season)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/09huntingarrows001.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/09huntingarrows002.jpg)

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/primitive%20archer/09huntingarrows003.jpg)

Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: NTD on November 13, 2010, 12:41:06 am
Pat, I'm inept! :-[  When I have tried that method I can never get a decent facet I always wander all over the place, thus why I was pondering the planing board... :)  Might just stick to tonkin...
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Pat B on November 13, 2010, 12:48:18 am
Nate, try using a soft wood like white pine or poplar and see if you can get the technique down. I've bought both at Home Depot and Lowe's near where the red oak in. Precut "craft" lumber.  On hardwood shoot shafts I hold the shoot in one hand and the plane in the other and sorta "free hand" the operation.
  One of those pencil sharpener type dowel makers works well too. You get them mail order for $20 to $30.
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: NTD on November 13, 2010, 12:50:05 am
eh You might be on to something, I was using ash...I'll give it another go with some pine.  Thanks Pat!
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Pat B on November 13, 2010, 12:55:00 am
Once you get the hang of the pine you can transfer over to ash or other woods. Setting the iron corectly so it only takes a little off with each stroke helps too.  I believe George Tsoukalas has a section on his site for arrow making. I think he uses white pine too.
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on November 13, 2010, 04:56:25 pm
Pat those arrows look awesome! I love the one with the plume wrap thing on the back, I bet that will be easy to mark stickin out of the side of a deer!
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Pat B on November 13, 2010, 05:58:07 pm
I make those tracers from "rabbit zonkers" that I buy from a fly tying shop and glue them on with TBIII, Duco or fletch tape. They really help you see an all natural arrow in flight and especially when the arrow hits it's target.
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: mullet on November 13, 2010, 08:21:31 pm
 Nate, I've got a Barrel tapering jig-planing board I'm getting ready to put up for a trade. It's made for a thumb planer. Interested?
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: aero86 on November 13, 2010, 09:57:20 pm
now that the temps arent 100 anymore, ive finally gotten into the mood of straightening again.  ive got a bunch of river cane i cut this summer all dried up ready to be straightened.  ive just been waiting for a cooler temperature.  i tried to straighten a few of them this summer.. wasnt gonna do it inside and waste all that blessed ac, and it was way too hot outside, so i just gave up. youll be seeing some river cane arrows from me pretty soon. 
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: ken75 on November 14, 2010, 12:09:43 am
nate you out of shafts? or wanting to "do it yourself ". theres a snakeskin payment option for me !! lol
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: NTD on November 14, 2010, 12:16:37 am
Hey Ken,
A little of both, actually.  I still have some of the shafts you made me but want the ability to have more on demand.  I make a lot (well not compared to you) of bows for other people and it just pains me to see them shooting crappy unmatched carbons with plastic vanes on them, wanna be able to send some arrows when I gift a bow.  That and with the rocks and my crappy shooting I bust a bunch myself.  I'm saving the snakeskin payment option for some of those hickory boards you've got ;D 

Lee, Sorry for the Thread Hi-jack, I'll take my beating now.
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on November 14, 2010, 01:57:51 am
NTD ha i'm not offended not to worry!
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: ken75 on November 15, 2010, 11:26:06 pm
lee if work will allow ill try to get some up soon i have 15 black walnut 12 black ash 25 norway pine 12 white pine and a dozen privet shoots in the works .

nate let me know when ya need some hickory i got it !
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: NTD on November 16, 2010, 12:25:51 am
Will do Ken. ;)
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: George Tsoukalas on November 19, 2010, 10:33:18 pm
I'm hunting now but am working on some wild rose shafts. Jawge
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: acker on November 20, 2010, 05:36:06 am
Just a few ... ::)

Bamboo :
(http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/bambuspfeile003peacs287i.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

(http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/bambuspfeile007kj9unl8ew.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Hazel , snowball and Forsythie :
(http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/spaziersep006br0t9e71y.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

(http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/spaziersep008l5vuxys4f.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

Not ready yet :
(http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/pfeilschftedieversef467buzsi.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

(http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/pfeilschftedieversel3t2uc6rd.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)


(http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/100erschfte013o9qnfzibu.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)

(http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/100erschfte0152jrp08icq.jpg) (http://www.fotos-hochladen.net)
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Pat B on November 20, 2010, 09:59:24 am
Hey Acker, is the snowball you mentioned one of the viburnums?
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: acker on November 20, 2010, 12:28:05 pm
sorry for the wrong name , just translated it from my mother language into English.

what I called " snowball " is : Viburnum opulus

Forsythie :    Forsythia x intermedia

and on the table are :
Hazel
wild rose
Amelanchier
Frangula alnus ( test )
Rowan
Forsythia
Philadelphus coronarius

acker
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Pat B on November 20, 2010, 12:33:42 pm
Thanks Acker. Most of these are common landscape plants so they should be available for everyone with a little research. With winter on it's way, many of these plants will be ready for their winter or early spring pruning.  ;D
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: Lee Lobbestael on November 21, 2010, 01:45:38 am
Those are all great lookin arrows! makes me want to start whippin some out! So little time tho!
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: sailordad on November 21, 2010, 11:16:06 am
man you guys are making some nice looking arrows
i hate making arrows
only part i like about making arrows(other than shooting them) is straightening them
other than that i hate making them,have the materials just no desire or patience for them
i only make enough for hunting each year,shoot crappy old ones for practice
but some of you seem to realy enjoy and have the skill for it
Title: Re: Where are all the arrows at!!!
Post by: arrowfan on November 25, 2010, 04:37:45 am
Hallo Acker,

well done, every time a supriese to see your fine arrows.  :D

Rolf