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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: half eye on October 31, 2010, 03:23:03 pm

Title: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: half eye on October 31, 2010, 03:23:03 pm
Hey fellas,
       Saw the recent post by Ken 75 where he had the belly lam on a bow. Looked pretty slick so thought I'd give it a try. Had some scrap pieces of walnut, ash. and maple so this is what I come up with:

66" ash core backed with blackwalnut. 36" walnut belly lam, followed by 24" maple lam. Weighs 65# @ 28". Plan view is a "double diamond" and the profile is typical Chineese.

I steam bent the ash core then glued on the backer. After that was dry I did each belly lam seperate and let @ one cure. When I unwrapped it all I did was "feather edge" the ends of the lams.....didn't have to tiller anything at all. The bow has no finish at all yet, and has shot roughly 200 arrows and it's very strong and has excellent speed. Will get somemore pics when it's finished.

Hope ya like it, couldn't wait to post because it was so easy to make....and even though the shape was a guess it still made a decent bow.....I'm impressed, so thanks for the idea Ken.
rich

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Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: rileyconcrete on October 31, 2010, 03:41:39 pm
A guy could never guess what you will do next.  Interesting idea.  Glad it shoots and performs well. 

thanks

Tell
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: n2huntn on October 31, 2010, 04:04:15 pm
It just keeps getting better and better. Thanks Rich.
Jeff
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: gothmog on October 31, 2010, 05:02:21 pm
Very cool Rich!  Love the "thinking outside the box".
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: cracker on October 31, 2010, 05:42:00 pm
Cool bow excelent skills.
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: Ozzy on October 31, 2010, 08:20:04 pm
Very cool nice one Rich.
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: okiecountryboy on October 31, 2010, 08:48:46 pm
Liken it Rich,
Good from every angle as usual. Very nicely done..... Do you sleep? ;D.... Have a magic bow makin machine? ;D ;D ;)
Can't wait to see it finished. Keep em comming!

God Bless
Ron

Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: half eye on October 31, 2010, 10:17:46 pm
Thanks for the nice comments, but it was really Ken's idea, just carried a little bit farther. The main thing for posting it was to let ya know it's a way to tiller in a bow as it's built. I believe that with some experience a person could layup a bow and know it's profile and basic draw weight before it came out of the mold.

A little food for thought is all.
rich
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: George Tsoukalas on October 31, 2010, 10:28:32 pm
That's a beauty! You are really a prolific bowyer. Jawge
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: Frode on October 31, 2010, 10:36:59 pm
Very nice, Rich!
Are the outer limbs walnut also?  And, are they separate lamination's from the handle area, or same lam feathered all the way through (small monitor, trifocals, sorry)?
Thanks,
Frode
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: aero86 on October 31, 2010, 10:39:28 pm
man, i need to start making more bows!  i dont make enough.  that thing sure is awesome!  and you just glued it like that is even better!  how can you hold 65 like that and seem like your not even trying!  lol
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: half eye on November 01, 2010, 08:57:35 am
Aero,
     It's a strain but the long levers do open like a big working recurve, so at  full draw it almost feels like the cams rolled over on a compound. I'm no expert on the subject, but some friends told me that when the working recurves "open" the string angle opens and it feels like the weight dropped 10 pounds.......
    Thanks for the compliment, but look at the white knuckles on both hands.....the old man's gettin a work out.
rich
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: aero86 on November 01, 2010, 09:31:20 am
either way, great job!  i notice how much they open up.  it looks like the whole thing is bending.  im working my way up to 60lbs..  about 50 is where im at right now
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: ken75 on November 01, 2010, 11:20:54 am
dang nice bow Rich  !  full draw looks like its gonna put some power into the arrow.
 i knew if i stayed around here long enough i would get blamed for something

i have to say decreasing belly lam length does make an easy bow to tiller once its cleaned up and feathered its bout done. nice work
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: Lombard on November 01, 2010, 11:36:43 am
Looks good Rich.
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: Parnell on November 01, 2010, 11:58:26 am
That's a super interesting bow, Rich!  I bet it shoots beautifully.  Took me awhile to figure out what was going on, but I got it.  A very interesting design.  How thick was your core, .5"?  How wide was your diamond?  Thanks for posting this one, it's different and looks VERY functional.
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: half eye on November 01, 2010, 02:08:43 pm
Thanks Parnell The core is 3/8" , and all the other lam's are 1/8" (thats the dimensions after some light sanding). Have only built the one but I believe that by using 1/8" you can place as many as ya want to tweek the bend profile however ya might want it. Like maybe a 48" followed by a 24" will bend different than a 36" followed by a 24".....anyway that's my take on it after only one.

the fat part of the diamonds are 1-3/4 wide and taper to 1-1/8" wide at the center of the bow (no grip area per-sey) the diamonds taper to 1/2" tips both tapers are in a straight line. The bends in the limbs (recurve) is 15" from @ tip. The first belly lam occures at 17 inches from the tip. Hope that helps some.
rich
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: dragonman on November 01, 2010, 05:19:33 pm
Another nice bow Rich, and as usual another original bow, thats what I like, you aint copying nobody, looks pretty fast
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: beetlebailey1977 on December 07, 2010, 09:39:37 pm
Very interesting Rich...I like it.
Title: Re: Bow named K75 / Belly lamed infantry bow (not for bom)
Post by: John K on December 07, 2010, 09:58:58 pm
Way cool ! Going to have to try one sometime, thanks for posting !