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Title: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on October 24, 2010, 12:57:43 pm
finished this one today ,its hickory backing ipe belly , and i put a strip of hickory on the belly that stops midlimb. 64inches tip to tip 43#s at 28 . 1 1/4 wide at fades to 3/8th tips.hope this one is better thatn the last. think im going back to simple bows after the next one since its glued up already .thanks for lookin

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Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on October 24, 2010, 01:01:39 pm
last couple

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Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: mullet on October 24, 2010, 01:05:03 pm
 That's different. Nice!
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Post by: Pat B on October 24, 2010, 01:23:49 pm
Cool looking bow and very nice tiller. The color combination is very pleasing. I'm curious to see how well the hickory strip on the belly holds up to the compression stresses.
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: NTD on October 24, 2010, 01:38:24 pm
Tiller looks nice! ;D  Curious about how the hickory belly will do too since the big advantage of Ipe is it's compressive strength.  Like the profile though and the color combo sure is attractive!
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on October 24, 2010, 01:59:18 pm
thanks guys for the nice comments , as far as the hickory belly time will tell . wont be the first one a screwed up trying something different. more than anything i wanted the stiffer center after the last one and the color contrast was enticing.
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: half eye on October 24, 2010, 02:34:02 pm
Man that bend is beautifull, bud. Everything about it is great especially the full draw profile.....wow
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on October 24, 2010, 11:03:11 pm
thanks Rich wasnt a bad finsh job on a bow after working all night .
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: hedgeapple on October 25, 2010, 12:19:50 am
I like this bow.  I appreciate the out of the box thinking with the hickory belly strips.  Granted I don't know a whole lot about the physics of bending characteristics of different wood combination, but a hickory self bow has a hickory back and a hickory belly.  So my first thought is this bow should do fine.

Now newby type question:  What's the trick for glueing the handle onto a curved section of the bow?
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: NTD on October 25, 2010, 01:18:29 am
Not sure how Ken did his but if you cut your handle lams thin enough they can bend to the shape of the bow with a clamp.  If using a thicker riser block and not multiple lams you have to cut out the shape of the deflex and fit the block to the bow.  I always do multiple thin lams and just clamp them to the bend.  Perfect fit everytime that way ;D
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: Pappy on October 25, 2010, 07:21:05 am
Love the colors,tiller looks great also.Nice. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on October 25, 2010, 10:59:12 am
thanks hedge nates right thin strips that form to the deflex
 thanks pappy
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: Parnell on October 25, 2010, 11:02:07 am
That is a smart looking bow.  I dig that hickory mid-belly.  Very nice, Ken.
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ohma on October 25, 2010, 01:38:03 pm
like how that belly fades out,great tiller, let us know how that belly holds up.
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on October 25, 2010, 01:54:02 pm
thanks Parnell
thanks ohma, i think it will be fine its a thin veneer and i think the ipe will hold enough compression that the hickory will be along just for the ride
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: hedgeapple on October 25, 2010, 09:12:00 pm
NTD and Ken, thanks.  When you're talking thin strips are you talking 1/8, 1/4, 3/8...?  Now you have me wanting to build a r/d bow.  Of course tillering that beast could be an interesting challenge.  :)
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on October 25, 2010, 10:32:01 pm
hedge usually 1/8 to 3/16 strips you want them to be flexable enough to not pull your deflex out when gluing and clamping.
give some a try , you can glue up several at a time with a couple blocks to form your bends. that way if you mess up ya got another handy. i usually glue the lams then glue the handle and give it 24 hours before i cut it out. three lams in the limb will hold their shape after tillering better than two. and i use titebond 2 for all my glue ups. lookin forward to seeing your post
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: hedgeapple on October 26, 2010, 08:30:34 am
Thanks Ken
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on October 26, 2010, 04:21:13 pm
no prob anything to help
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: Badger on October 27, 2010, 05:33:12 pm
   I think that bow will hold up ok the way it is. The ipe is basicaly just a core in the working portion. Keep us posted. I have been tempted to glue 1/2 lams on before but never have tried it. Steve
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on November 01, 2010, 11:12:58 am
thanks Steve i dont mind posting my blow ups , been shooting this one and even though its great im going to take it down four inches and see if i can stress the hickory with more weight . ill let yall know how it works
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: Lombard on November 01, 2010, 11:39:36 am
Looks nice, I have never tried anything like that.
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on November 02, 2010, 11:40:47 am
thanks lombard give it a shot it makes an easy tiller bow
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: jwillis on November 03, 2010, 11:04:08 pm
This type of belly lam seems like an easy way to manipulate the limb thickness like power lams and tip wedges, except it is on the outside where you can fine tune it by scraping during tillering. Jim
Title: Re: hickory ipe hickory mild r/d
Post by: ken75 on November 04, 2010, 10:59:29 am
your exactly right , try it