Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: islandpiper on September 28, 2010, 08:50:52 pm
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I just had my old C 1947 Crossman 100 air rifle re-sealed. It is always a scary thing to send off a treasured rifle to someone you can't see. But, Rick seemed to know what he was talking about and his emails were fast and friendly. So, I boxed up my rifle, with no butt-stock as directed and mailed it to him with a $55 money order. That was $45 for the work and $10 for the shipping back to me.
Long story short: he took a gun that didn't shoot at all and set it up so it punches .22 size holes WAY DEEP in 2x4 lumber with no trouble.
His work was done well and quickly. If you are considering having airgun work done, he may well be the fellow to do it. He'll be doing all of mine from now on.
airgunshop.net/index.html
piper
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The Crossman factory is less than 20 miles from me! they used to have a smith right there, I brought all my crossmans there, I had an old pump master what a coon killer that was !!! JEFF W p.s. have you seen crossmans new stuff? they have a killer crossbow now!! My best buddy is planning to own one soon when there is a season here in NY JEFFW
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Jeff, i've shot pounds of .177 during the last year or so using several different rifles and pistols. Shooting, AND HITTING THINGS with this .22 gives me a whole new respect for air-driven pellets. If my .177 pellets hit like a Toyota Corolla, then the .22 hits like a GMC Suburban.
piper
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I'd like to find a nice 22 airgun.
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Me too. I have an old RWS45 that needs trigger work. The second stage of the trigger doesn't work anymore. But, I really need a .22. I have a really old Benjamin Franklin .22 cal pump pellet gun that the seals are so bad on it can't get the pellet out of the barrel. It looks like a bicycle pump under the barrel with a plunger looking handle. Bought it on a whim years ago. Browning has a .22 spring air pellet pistol I've been lusting awhile.
George
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I bought a el-cheapo Beeman RS22 combo the other day. It has the rifle and 3X9 scope for $140. I had a couple of gift certificates and was able to pay for it with them. I have been shooting pigeons and Eurasian doves with it for a few weeks now. It will put a .22 pellet clear through a pigeon at 25 yards. At $7 for 500 pellets I can shoot until I cant stand it. Did I mention that with the muzzle break it makes less noise than my compound bow. ;D
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I'll still be looking for an air rifle, but I did pick up two Remington 22 single shot rifles yesterday for $40.
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Well I'm so glad this subject is open! first sorry I can't post pics!!! but I got a gammo express, get this .22 and .22 shot gun!!! you read right! shot gun what a blast!!! hard hitting pellets the shot gun is so cool, I used it for squirrel this past season works well and I was shooting up some tall maples!!! the shot shell can be reloaded(I'm sure gammo won't like this!) it was like a $100.oo you are right a .22 air rifle is cool JEFFW
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Years ago I collected money for a retirement gift for an old man I really admired. He had mentioned when I worked with him that he was going to buy one of those "fancy BB guns" some day. He was a prince of a guy, badly wounded WWII vet, cancer survivor, volunteered to hold the hands of many dieing caner patients and best of all he never complained no matter how bad his condition became.
Everyone at work emptied their wallets when I told them I was buying a present for Harold so I bought him a Beman R-1 pellet rifle to thank him for being a great guy.
When we shot the gun it was a disappointment, very poor accuracy, but he was proud of it anyway.
He moved to Springfield MO when another bout of cancer threated his life so his wife could be near her folks. After he moved he called me to see if he could leave his Beman to me after he died. Of course I was touched by his thoughtfulness and said I would be honored to own his rifle. The next day there was a knock at my door, there was Harold holding the gun out to me. He said he would much rather deliver it in person than have it sent to me after his death. He drove from Springfield to Florence Alabama to do this, about an 8 hr drive. Typical Harold thoughtfulness.
This was about 10 years go. I wasn't until I was watching American Air gunner on TV that I found out we had been shooting the gun wrong and gripping it tightly instead of the "artillery" grip it required. The gun will shoot through the same hole at 15 yds when held properly.
Harold is still alive, the cancer didn't get him as he expected. I need to call him to let him know what I discovered. He is eighty eight now and not doing well. Two bouts with cancer, and a German 88 round that took most of his right leg didn't kill him but old age will pretty soon.
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Gstoneberg, I think I have the same model BenjaminFranklin in .22 cal. It is extremely accurate, and it used to knock the snot out of doves, quail, and squirrels. They didn't survive being hit with it. It really shot the best with the cheapest pellets! Piper, I think I will contact that guy, and see if he can fix this one up. It needs new seals, and gaskets, etc. and a rear sight. The original was just a threaded bar with a "V" groove in it, with a screw through a flat piece of brass on the side of the barrel. You adjusted the windage by turning the sight while holding the screw with a screw driver, and raised the elevation by loosening the screw in the flat plate. But it was still very accurate. Piper thanks for posting that info.
Wayne
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Wayme,
Thanks, maybe I should try to get it fixed. I'll take a picture and post it when I get back from deer hunting this weekend. I also appreciate the link. Hard to find air gun repair people.
George
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George........no, don't get it fixed. That's a big waste of your time and money. Just put the rifle in a box and mail it to me and i'll give you twenty bucks for it. And, i'll pay postage, too. Ya....that's a lot better idea. Let me deal with all the details, you're a busy guy. How's that sound?
piper
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Dang Piper, I was just about to offer him tewnty, it , you just for parts, as it would cost him more to repair than it is worth...... ::)
Wayne
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You guys are too kind. I still haven't taken a picture. I'm recovering from Saturday's opening day deer hunt debacle. Only excitement came when a couple does drank out of the hog wallow and then left. O, when I bit into a fire ant on my donut, that was exciting too.
George
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As promised, pictures of the old Benjamin Franklin air gun:
(http://72.64.80.21/gks-pictures/benjamin_franklin-1.jpg)
(http://72.64.80.21/gks-pictures/benjamin_franklin-2.jpg)
(http://72.64.80.21/gks-pictures/benjamin_franklin-3.jpg)
George
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Dang that is an old one! Mine is similar, but has an under lever pump. The bolt, and stock are about the same though, and the barrel, and reservoir are the same.
Wayne
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I'll still be looking for an air rifle, but I did pick up two Remington 22 single shot rifles yesterday for $40.
Eddie, what are you looking for? (hunting ? plinking ? ) and how much you wanna spend ?
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I'm not sure, Manny. How loud are they? I have a Chinese.17 but it is louder than my 22's. I want quiet or I'll shoot my Huskavarna 22 with sub sonics.
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I'm not sure, Manny. How loud are they? I have a Chinese.17 but it is louder than my 22's. I want quiet or I'll shoot my Huskavarna 22 with sub sonics.
There's .22s and .25s that come fully shrouded and you can't hear them 20 feet away, they are so accurate that you can hit Doves at 100 yards all day, yet powerfull enought to kill hogs with a headshot, usually 8-10 rounds magazines for fast follow up shooting.
Are silencers legal in Florida ? there's a great company that makes .22 and .25 and come with a threaded barrel to fit silencers, and this guns are even more powerfull than the ones mentioned above ;)
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Nomadic, you must be talkin some big bucks. Yes silencers, or suppressors, are legal in Florida, and quite a few other states, so long as you follow all the NFA rules, and get a stamp from the ATFE, for $200.00 . You can find a class III dealer, and order the suppressor, and fill out the forms, which vary as to how much difficulty you want to go through, the easiest is to get a "revocable one party living trust" form. Fill it out have it notarized, and send it in, and wait from three to six months or more. I would love to get one of those .22, or .25 cal. airguns. But it sounds like they are way out of my league. I have always wanted a RWS model 48, but it is a bit pricey. But maybe one of these days, I will.
P.S. Eddie, you got both Remington single shot .22's for $40.00?! Man, I need to follow you around . I got a Remington bolt single shot, for 20 bucks from my Sister n Law's Dad, some years ago, and had always wanted a tubular fed one, like a friend of mine had, when we were kids. I finally got one from a guy, I buy knives from at the gun show, for $60.00 ! They are both in Montana now. Wish I had it here, Darn Possum in the garage again. My scoped suppressed 10-22 doesn't work so too pretty good, at close range! ::) Not that I would actually consider using it in the garage......subsonics...... ::) ;D
Wayne
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Manny, silencers are legal on pellet rifles from what I've been told because they are not considered a "firearm" and do not fall under the same reg's as real guns. So you don't have to deal with the ATFE.
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I bought an RWS48 before I got the 45. I took it back because it was so incredibly loud. It sounded quite a bit like a .22 rimfire. I could not use it in town. I loved the under-barrel cocking though. Even the RWS45 is a little loud for city use.
George
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Most of them are muzzle breaks that work quite well as silencers.
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Eddie, you struck me like the tipe that would own a scuba tank, is that right ?
what do you wanna hunt with an air rifle ?
how much would be your budget ?
...there's some truly awsome stuff out there, it's just so underground and away from mainstream ;)
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Manny, I've got eight scuba tanks.
The budget isn't the problem, I don't know enough about them to go looking for one. And don't know where to look for one. But if they are louder that my guns I'll pass.
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Eddie, I was shooting doves off the back wall when the neighbors walked by about 30 yards away. They didn't even look up from their conversation. Is that quiet enough?
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Manny, I've got eight scuba tanks.
The budget isn't the problem, I don't know enough about them to go looking for one. And don't know where to look for one. But if they are louder that my guns I'll pass.
BINGO !!! I knew that the active man you are scuba tanks would be in your house.
So I would definatly go the PCP route !
In .22 I would get the EVANIX Rainstorm, about 550 bucks, shoots the 28.5gr pellet at 900 fps for a nice 50 FPE, this gun is so quite that once I had this 2 hogs coming down to drink at 25 yards, I shot the first and the second one never flinched, so i shot that one too, this gun is so accurate that shooting doves at 100 yards all day is just a matter of the shooter, 10 rounds clip and butter smooth side lever action make this gun a plesure to shoot.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Harvests/003-8.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Harvests/001-14-1.jpg)
If silencers where lecal in Hawaii i would get a Eun Jin Sumatra in .25 cal, this gun is reported to be extremely accurate and at 80-90 FPE can shoot 40gr pellets at some serious speed. this gun has athreaded barrel so putting a silencer on is a piece of cake and at 400 bucks is an extremely great deal, ( I might even get one miself soon, to good not too )
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Sumatra_2500_PCP_air_rifle/343
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That EVANIX sounds like what I'm looking for. I'll look into it, thanks. See my post in your thread about silencers.
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If you decide to get one let me know before you push the button, there's codes that can be applyed to get 10% discount, and i give you the ups on what ammo to get ;D
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Eddie, an other good option would be the Benjamin Maurader in .25 cal, very, very quite, real accurate, a bit les powerfull than the Evanix at 45 FPE, but a little cheaper too at just over 400 bucks, Because of the larger caliber I think it would be a little less effective on head shots on pigs haven't tryed yet, but it's devastating on small game, 8 rounds magazine.
this are pictures of mine, the stock I reshaped and stained ( and you as a woodworker would too since the one that comes is truly horrible)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/001-6.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/002-9.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/004-6.jpg)
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NP, the rifle in the picture, with the hogs, what model, brand, and cal. is it and is it a lever action, like a winchester, and the one in the picture with the doves, what brand and model is it, and where is the cocking lever on it, and what cal. ? When you shot the hogs in the head, where did you shoot, "between the eyes, in the ear, between the ear, and eye, behind the ear, etc." ?
Thanks. You've got my curiosity up about those air guns. I see they have a .50 cal. but not much velocity. Maybe a .30, or 40, would be better.
Wayne
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NP, the rifle in the picture, with the hogs, what model, brand, and cal. is it and is it a lever action, like a winchester, and the one in the picture with the doves, what brand and model is it, and where is the cocking lever on it, and what cal. ? When you shot the hogs in the head, where did you shoot, "between the eyes, in the ear, between the ear, and eye, behind the ear, etc." ?
Thanks. You've got my curiosity up about those air guns. I see they have a .50 cal. but not much velocity. Maybe a .30, or 40, would be better.
Wayne
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/guns/001-4.jpg)
The Winchester style lever action is a Shin Sung Career 707 ULTRA shoots a .360 round, with a 5 rounds mag, the top one is the .50 cal and still gets plenty velocity, shoots The 183gr rounds at 900 fps or 300 FPE ;D
I shoot at all of the above, between the eyes, between eye and hear or behind the hear depending on the angle given to me by the porkers
The gun with the doves is a .22 has a butter smooth side lever action and a 10 rounds clip.
What would you be hunting with a airgun ?
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Anything from doves, to hogs, turkeys, deer, coyotes, etc. What is the velocity of the .36? The .50 cal that I saw in the catalog, only listed about a 650 ft/sec velocity. What weight bullet is the .36 caliber? And how low are they? I originally wanted a good quality .22 cal air gun for grouse hunting, in Montana.
Thanks, Wayne
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Anything from doves, to hogs, turkeys, deer, coyotes, etc. What is the velocity of the .36? The .50 cal that I saw in the catalog, only listed about a 650 ft/sec velocity. What weight bullet is the .36 caliber? And how low are they? I originally wanted a good quality .22 cal air gun for grouse hunting, in Montana.
Thanks, Wayne
First of all remember that there's guys out there that can significantly power up airguns .
The .50 cal you saw was probably the "Dragon Slayer" That is an extremely accurate gun, the ones that come out today shoot the 183gr roundball at over 700 fps that is about 200 FPE, those guns can easyly be powered up to 300 FPE or 900 fps, but you don't really need that much.
My 707 Ultra shoots the 71gr .360 roundball at 1000 fps, those rounds are a nickle a piece, gotta love how cheap you can run an airgun ;D ;D
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Thanks, NP, who makes those guns, and who would you send it to upgrade the air chamber, or velocity? That .36 sounds like a winner. ;) But I would like a .50 . The only problem, I would have to get an air tank, or two. But that sounds like the ticket for Montana! ;) Especially off of my porch! How loud are the .36 and the .50?
Wayne