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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Ifrit617 on September 01, 2010, 05:16:40 pm

Title: Is this possible?
Post by: Ifrit617 on September 01, 2010, 05:16:40 pm

I am interested in starting a new project and I was wondering if this setup is possible?
 
I wanted to make a short brush bow to hunt rabbits with.

This is what I was thinking....

A 40" n2n linen backed maple or hickory bow with small recurves to reduce string angle.

I want it to be about 40# @ 19"... Is this possible?? I know it would be easy with a sinew backing but I do not have any easy access to sinew..

Your thoughts are welcome.... Thanks.

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: Ifrit617 on September 01, 2010, 05:26:59 pm

I wanted a width of about 1.5 inches too.

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: profsaffel on September 01, 2010, 05:44:35 pm

Very possible, as long as tillering is done slow and steady and the hickory has a great grain pattern.

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: Pat B on September 01, 2010, 05:52:46 pm

I would have a bow that short bend through the handle.

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: bubby on September 01, 2010, 06:17:30 pm

Yea it's possible, really just a heavy kid's bow, I would make it a D bow, 19" draw probably dosn't need recurved, just a bendy handle D bow.

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: Justin Snyder on September 01, 2010, 06:54:39 pm

Deflex the handle and you can make it easy.

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: Ifrit617 on September 01, 2010, 07:10:56 pm

Would a bend through the handle D bow work with maple ( I have a good piece now)  or should I wait till I get a good piece of hickory?

Also if I recurve the tips would I need to deflex the handle? What is the point of this?

Thanks for all your help.

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: Alpinbogen on September 01, 2010, 08:03:40 pm

A working handle, full C-tiller bow should work out fine for you.  I'm not a fan of maple, though, and would strongly prefer hickory.

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: half eye on September 01, 2010, 10:09:09 pm

Ifrit,
    I posted some pretty small bows here two of which were rigid handled Mollegabets and one was a stiff tipped "D" bow. All were made of elm (probably closer to the hickory than the maple) but they worked pretty good and would very easily make your target weight. All the bows pulled between 25 and 27 inches.  These are not exactly what you describe but I believe ya can make your project. JMO
rich

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: half eye on September 01, 2010, 10:10:37 pm

sorry, here's the pics

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Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: Ifrit617 on September 01, 2010, 11:52:28 pm

Thanks half eye... Those are some amazing short bows... If I get something to look half as good as those I'll be happy.

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 02, 2010, 12:03:13 am

40#, 40", 19" draw? Heck yeah!  What do you think the Sioux were shooting buffalo with?  Don't let some of the sinew tribe tell you that all the Sioux bows were backed with sinew, plenty were just bare wood bows. 

If you backed a 1 1/4" hickory board with linen, silk, or even cotton fabric, you could do a bend thru the handle bow easily enough.  Don't even worry about flipping the tips any.  If you were to toast the belly, it wouldn't even take up much set, I bet.

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: Ifrit617 on September 02, 2010, 01:00:03 am

Can you heat treat boards and if so what is the easiest way to do it?

Title: Re: Is this possible?
Post by: JW_Halverson on September 04, 2010, 03:38:38 pm

The Traditional Bowyers Bible Vol IV has a section on heat treating, but I haven't gotten that volume yet.  Check George Tsoukalas' website, bet he has something on it about heating treating board bows.  George is kinda the guru on the subject of board bows.