Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Bentstick81 on August 26, 2010, 05:52:30 pm
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I have just about lost all my hunting ground due to gun hunters, selling of properties, etc... Thought about selling my only glass bow, and go strictly with selfbows. No need for all the archery stuff anymore. Just wondering how many of you guys went to strictly selfbows? If i keep losing much more ground, i will probably give up hunting after my thirty plus years. Too many arrogant gun hunters out in the timber, anymore. The timber, and the hunting changes for the worst after gun season is over. How many people have went to selfbows ONLY?
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Perhaps you should start a poll.
I haven't hunted with a glass bow in nearly 30 years and I've never hunted with a wheelbow
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Marc ...you have to be a Mod or Admin to start a poll. :) That's why I am now a Mod so i can start the poll in the BOM contest every month. ;D
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I strictly hunt with bows made by my hand now. :) This is my year for a deer too. :)
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I think that i am going to make the switch. The ones i have are around 43#-48#. You guys that made the switch, what type of quiver do you use?
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I recently sold my compound because I needed the money, and I cannot afford a "glass" bow, so I will be hunting with my self and backed bows for some time to come.
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I hunt with and shoot only selfbows. Jawge
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Marc ...you have to be a Mod or Admin to start a poll. :) That's why I am now a Mod so i can start the poll in the BOM contest every month. ;D
Wow, you serious? I guess I've been an Admin for to long :)
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I've been hunting strictly with bows I have built for several years. I hunted one season with compound years ago but have been traditional only for 15+ years now. I say keep your glass bow as backup. I plan on hunting with a glass bow some this year. Dont think glass vs. selfbow. Use what you like and dont worry about what anyone else thinks. Too many people on here developed a dislike for bows other than selfbows based solely on sombody else opinion which they adapted as their own to be part of the "in" crowd here. Thats my opinion. I could be wrong ;D
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iv'e been hunting with bows i build for two years and sold my glass bow and never looked back.
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I mostly hunt with several self bows,switching back and forth it is truely rewarding getting game with bows/arrows you make yourself but I do have a glass bow I use for backup.and I know what it's like to loose hunting spots!Hammertime.
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I just started hunting last year with a bow (osage flat). Love it. When out opening mornin'n with rifle but just took a knap and started hunting dogwood. It was boring compared to bow. I hunt alot of public land and next to never run in to any one bow hunting. Missouri has plenty of bow only or bow/black powder land. My friends and family all hunt with the wheels but....
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Ya... I guess my last post had nothing to do with glass bows but... I'll never know what its like hunt with the glass. The bows you make will change you. I even risked a felony a year or two dove hunting to pick some hemp. Would your glass bow do that?? OK... bad example.
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AMEN Jesse ,i have nothing against a person hunting with any weapon they choose "to each his own" should be our motto. having said that i have 9 primitive bows in the line up for this season might never make it past the first but i'll change after i take a deer with one. who knows might even be able to make another before season gets here ! 16 days
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I don't have a thing against the glass bows ;). I just thought that i would sell my recurve due to me losing all my hunting ground >:(. Thought i might as well just shoot my selfbows. No need for me to keep all the archery tackle 8). Don't have much money in the selfbows. I've noticed that i seem to be shooting my selfbows a little better than my recurve, lately ;D.
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I don't quite understand your reasoning,[ not much hunting ground so I will just hunt with a selfbow]It is like you are saying probably ant going to get a shot anyway. ??? I have hunted with all selfbows for around 15 years now,before that recurves and longbows , I don't feel the least bit handy caped by using my selfbows. I still own recurves/longbows/muzzler loaders and rifles just haven't seen the need to use them in years. :)
Pappy
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I'm with you Pappy, I dont understand the reasoning? I haven't shot selfbows for very long but as far as I can tell the effective range with one of those is the same as a glass bow. I couldn't justify getting rid of my glass bows because I lost hunting ground or something like that. I'm not going to judge the reasoning I just dont understand it. I like to have options when I go afield so I like being able to say, do I feel like taking a recurve or longbow? Or maybe my selbow today.
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Sorry guys. I think that i am just depressed about losing my hunting ground. I've lost a bunch of ground, and all thats just about left, is public ground. I know that public ground is good, in some areas, but you have to be careful that you don't get shot at possibly. It will be a new experience for me.
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I know what you're saying Bentstick. For this situation I would just say, STOP, dont do anything let the depressed, down and out mood pass after a couple days and then re-evaluate. Don't do anything you'll regret later. Make the most out of it that you can. I used to hunt on a 23 acre postage stamp that had about 3 or 4 trails crossing it from bedding to water. Gun hunters on both sides made it really tough but I still got some opportunities. There's only so much you can control so you have to work with that best you can.
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I've hunted entirely with selfbows for two years, but recently started building glass bows. It's nice to have an abusable back up in wet, muggy weather, but I'm alot more comfortable with selfbows. Beleive it or not, I'm less afraid a selfbow is going to blow up on me than a glassy :D
Now if you'll excuse me, there's some hickory that needs some TLC :)
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Yah Stingray, i have a bunch of gun hunters on the land that they are trying to run me off from. They are so arrogant. After the first shot gun weekend, you will find two to three deer carcusses, that they just took off the easy meat, then they just throw whats left, carcuss and all, in a field entrance roadway ditch, a couple miles down the road. Every year the deer carcusses are there. You drive by the carcusses the rest of the winter. That just gives the animal rights activist more power when those guys do this. This is what really ticks me off. A guy has to give up his hunting land to the drunks that don't care about anything.
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Man, where do you guys live? I hunt Missouri and Alabama each year both public and private. I am thankfull for the great opportunities on public land , bow season comes in before gun season so you have a fair chance.
I hunt with compound, selfbows, and vintage Bear bows. I like it all, don't do gun or crossbows but don't judge others who choose to.
Jeff
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N2huntin. Didn't mean to upset you. I am not judging others who gun hunt, they pretty much judge themselves, during gun season, fueling the anti-hunters, with their dumping of carcusses. I don't see any of this during bow season, before gun season. Only the first weekend of gun season. I pulled over last year and looked at three remains of deer, when a guy in a truck came up from behind me, shook his head in dis beleif. Not a good sight, at all. This kind of ignorance isn't helping our hunting heritage at all, just helping the anti's a little more.
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I've shot / hunted with selfbows almost exclusively for the last decade. I'll caveat that with the occasional glass bow shooting (Howard Hill) and using my flintlock in the gun season. To the OP, I can understand wanting to dump less-used gear in anticipation of bailing out or scaling back. If frustration drives an all or nothing vibe and it is what is it is, then so be it. I can understand that, so if you go for broke so to speak, then more power to you. (Similar thoughts on my end lately, and I've posted up items on different activities.) Ditch the glass and pay bills, throw into another interest, or save for a rainy day.
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Bentstick81,
Do you have any proof of these gun hunters leaveing Carcasses like you wrote about?Because if you do,it is against the law in most places.Its called Wanton waste of Game meat,and it is a violation with consequences rangeing from Fines,Jail time,and definetely,loss of license and hunting rights.If you can prove it to a Warden,you may eliminate the competition for your hunting Land.
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The carcusses have been there two years in a row. The problem is, i don't know what time of the day, or evening they are dumping them. I bet there will be some again this year. The reason i beleive that these guys are doing the dumping, is because we never had this problem before they came in and started gun hunting.
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The carcusses have been there two years in a row. The problem is, i don't know what time of the day, or evening they are dumping them. I bet there will be some again this year. The reason i beleive that these guys are doing the dumping, is because we never had this problem before they came in and started gun hunting.
Dunno about there, but here the Game Commission will usually have someone sit there if you can give names and vehicle descriptions to watch for, especially if you can at least give them a time frame (days of the week). If they've been doing it for years they'll be interested in bringing those guys in.
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you should set up some trail cams around the perimeter of the area to catch those guys.
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One of my favorite off the beaten path camping spots had some slob bowyers abandon 5 dear carcasses. Only took the heads and one hind leg required to hold the tag. I called the GF&P and they dispatched a great conservation Officer out of Custer, SD. I helped him pull the 5 carcasses out and examine them. All were shot with three blade arrows, all bucks. Only one had backstraps removed, no other meat touched. According to South Dakota law, as long as the game is tagged, you can do with it as you want, waste the whole damn thing if that is what trips your trigger. The CO and I ag reed that law was BS!
But what he told me made me encouraged, he says if there is one segment of hunting society that is in a rut and will do the same thing year after year, it is the archery hunter. He agreed to set trail cams on the site the next year to nail the buggers. You see, they left a plastic tarp and some other trash along with the carcasses. Littering and improper disposal of carcasses add up to big fines in National Forest Service land. I strongly recommend you call the local game officer and ask he set up the trail cams. The last thing the CO told me before he left, he stated he has 100% conviction rates on trail cam arrests, not a single one in 4 years went to trial. Hehehehe, smoke 'em if ya got 'em!
We, the ethical, need to help the enforcement arms of the government if we are to save our deeply loved heritage.