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Title: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Jbell on April 15, 2007, 10:30:08 pm
My dad works for IDOT and occasionally they clear trees near roads and such, well he brought these home for firewood. I was just wondering what you guys think they are. I have been to a couple of tree id sites but just can't figure it out cause of only having bark to go by. Pretty sure the one on the far right is Hackberry but that is about it. Justin

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Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Agbowyer on April 15, 2007, 10:50:57 pm
I'm no expert, but I think in the last pic from left: Hackberry, Hickory or pecan, Pine, Oak and oak.
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Justin Snyder on April 15, 2007, 11:18:32 pm
The only thing I know for sure is they would make better bows than fires.  ;) Justin
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: D. Tiller on April 16, 2007, 12:10:40 am
Hmmmm! Wood, wood, wood and wood! I know wood when I see it!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Jbell on April 16, 2007, 12:14:03 am
The middle log is pretty light, pretty sure it is Pine. The two on the right that Agbower says maybe Oak has a pretty large heart wood and a few rings of sapwood, I thought Oak was mostly sapwood? Really wish I had some leaves to help me out here. ???
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Jbell on April 16, 2007, 12:17:46 am
Hey thanks tiller, GOT WOOD!  :o
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Pat B on April 16, 2007, 12:33:41 am
If that is pine, you can smell it. Looks like cherry to me. The first 2 could be hickory. The hack berry(sugar Berry) has corky protrusions on the bark.    Pat
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: nailbender on April 16, 2007, 01:59:50 am
The two on the right look like oak to me. Oak has a pretty thin sapwood compared to heartwood.
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: GregB on April 16, 2007, 08:45:39 am

Looking at the last picture, I would say the far left is hackberry, the next one is either hickory or locust, the third from the left is wild cherry, and the last two I'm pretty sure are sassafras.
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Hillbilly on April 16, 2007, 08:53:29 am
Hard to say for sure on some of them without seeing/feeling/smelling them in person, but here's my stab at it-last pic l to r:
Hackberry or sweetgum; oak; definitely black cherry; sassafrass ; sourwood if you have it there, if not maybe chestnut oak.
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: tom sawyer on April 16, 2007, 10:12:25 am
One on left, definitely hackberry.  And I agree with Pat about the third one being cherry.
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Minuteman on April 16, 2007, 12:09:47 pm
In the first two pics, I'd say: Sassafras , sassafras, cherry, maple or some kinda hickory maybe, but leaning towards maple and the hackberry is a no brainer. Ain't too many trees got bark like hackberry.
 Good haul . Get 'em sealed up quick. :)
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: duffontap on April 16, 2007, 04:27:34 pm
Judging from the pictures I would say they are all a score.   ;D

               J. D. Duff
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: a finnish native on April 16, 2007, 05:24:22 pm
all others except the middleone witch is pine are good for bows. pine makes better firewood than bow wood. trust me, pine is the most usuall tree in finland and it sure makes good arrows, but not bows.
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Minuteman on April 16, 2007, 10:37:24 pm
If ya use yer nose you can learn alot about wood. Sassafras smells like root beer , kinda, cherry has a sweet smell to it. And I'm pretty sure the one Finnish is saying is pine is cherry but I'd smell it and know if I were there.  Easier to ID when the leaves are on the tree and you have yer tree book with ya.
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: DCM on April 16, 2007, 10:43:23 pm
Oak, particularly red oak, smells like cat pee, to me.

The one with the dark bark is cherry, not pine.  I'm guessing black gum on the one with greenish bark.  Oak on the other unknown.
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: nailbender on April 17, 2007, 01:26:07 am
Oak, when it is green, or wet, has a somewhat sour smell, especially when it is cut or split.
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Justin Snyder on April 17, 2007, 01:37:43 am
all others except the middleone witch is pine are good for bows. pine makes better firewood than bow wood. trust me, pine is the most usuall tree in finland and it sure makes good arrows, but not bows.
I can see exactly what you are saying. The bark on that center one looks exactly like Ponderosa pine.
I don't know what they are, but if I had to throw my hat in with someone it would be the horticulturalist, Hillbilly. Justin
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Hillbilly on April 17, 2007, 08:49:02 am
I'd also say pretty certainly that the middle one isn't pine, also looks to me like wild cherry. Justin, like everybody else said, it's hard to positively ID wood from a photo, it's a lot easier when you can see the grain up close and like several people mentioned, smell helps a lot. Plus, you've probably got trees in Illinois that we don't have here.
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: DanaM on April 17, 2007, 09:18:19 am
The middle one does look like red pine, should be easy to tell though. Pull some bark up see if
is pitchy like pine. But it also looks like BC.

DanaM
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Justin Snyder on April 17, 2007, 09:52:51 am
I would guess its not pine, even without smelling it. I have never cut a live pine that didn't ooze pine gum out the end. That one is clean. And a ponderosa almost always has streaks of pine gum running down the outside.  You would know it was pine from touching it, you would be all sticky. Justin
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Pappy on April 17, 2007, 10:04:33 am
Iam with Greg on this one,at least without smelling it.Frrst is Hackberry 3rd is Cherry and last 2 Saff. I would bet.2nd one not so sure. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Jbell on April 17, 2007, 07:13:46 pm
  Thanks alot for all your responses. I have pretty darn sure that i have Black cherry instead of pine, 2 sassafrass, Hackberry and do beleive that the second one from the left is Pin Oak(I think!). 

  Anyone got any comments or suggestions about these becoming bows? Have'nt worked with alot of white wood besides Hickory,Sugar Maple and Black Locust. Thanks! Justin
Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: DanaM on April 18, 2007, 05:05:57 am
This started to remind me of the old Cheech and Chong thing

Looks like dog poop, smells like dog poop, tastes like dog poop......

I was wiatin for someone to suggest ya taste the BC/pine log to confirm what it is  ;D ;D

DanaM

Don't think B. Locust is considered a white wood, don't ya have to remove the sap wood on it?

Title: Re: Need help Id'ing some logs
Post by: Jbell on April 18, 2007, 08:36:03 am
That's pretty funny Dana :D :D I totally agree with you that BL is'nt a white wood, don't know why some of us consider it a white wood, although one of my first selfbows was and all sapwood BL that still shoots til this day, super whiptillered and only an 1.25" wide, beats me how it survived. ???