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Main Discussion Area => English Warbow => Topic started by: nidrinr on August 14, 2010, 02:57:30 am

Title: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: nidrinr on August 14, 2010, 02:57:30 am
I'm still torturing w. elm to see what it can take. This one is meant for a 32" draw, but I only had a 30" arrow to compare with while measuring.

Tiller check:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp20Gmqwnm0

measuring it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WccYAFre7iM
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: medicinewheel on August 14, 2010, 04:16:30 am
CRAZY...!!!
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: nidrinr on August 15, 2010, 04:33:35 am
Dimesions on the bow: 79 1/2" ntn, W/D at grip 48mm/39mm, near the nocks 19mm/32mm. The permanent stringfollow is about 2 1/2", close to 3" right after it's been pulled several times to 30-32"
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: Kviljo on August 15, 2010, 07:33:49 pm
Looking forward to seeing this one being shot at the flight-range next weekend! It ought to make something happen - even to a quaterpounder ;D
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: adb on August 16, 2010, 01:29:30 am
If someone can shoot this 220# bow (to a full draw of >30") it would be a new world record, and I'd like to see that.
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: RyanY on August 16, 2010, 02:14:15 am
I'll do it.  :D
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: adb on August 16, 2010, 11:08:36 am
Yah, yah, Ryan... we've heard this story before  ;D
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: Yeomanbowman on August 16, 2010, 05:55:56 pm
Sorry to only come up with a very un-insightful comment but, Wow that really is quite a bow!!!  I think it really does go a long way to showing what Ascham's ‘meane’ wood bow were capable of and how a military archer could train on a heavy with a white wood bow that was heavy enough to be the equal of a livery yew bow.  Or use a white wood bow in battle that was capable of being an effective weapon in its own right.
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: Kviljo on August 16, 2010, 06:04:58 pm
I think Nidrinr will draw and shoot this bow without a problem!

...as a foot bow  8)


Agree Yeoman! I and Nidrinr discussed this shortly today. It really shows why elm is mentioned in historical texts and is represented in the archaeological material (e.g. Hedeby).
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: nidrinr on August 17, 2010, 01:32:00 am
Until recently I considered w.elm and good ash to be quite equal material for heavy bows. I think different on the matter now. Not only does elm feel like it has a better "kick" from the same poundage, it also has a way of not developing compression marks before it's really poor tillered. Ash has a way of soaking water like a sponge, elm seems to be a little more tolerant to humidity. Both ash and w.elm seems to tolerate a lot of tension, but I have seen ash failing in tension. I've never seen w. elm do the same.

All in all I guess I'm on a quest of harvesting a lot more w. elm than I've bothered to do before.
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: jkekoni on August 27, 2010, 10:44:18 am
220# Sustanon? Deca Duranabolin?
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: nidrinr on August 30, 2010, 06:04:15 pm
umm.. could you repeat that in Norwegian, Sweedish, Danish, Saami or English please..?
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: aero86 on September 02, 2010, 04:28:21 pm
how far would that fling an arrow?  youd have to have like 1/2 inch shafts!  could you imagine a 50lb spined arrow on that?  probably just cut it right down the middle!  lol
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: Yeomanbowman on September 02, 2010, 06:24:15 pm
Hi Nidrinr,

What distance did you get with a 1/4lber as a foot bow, please?
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: nidrinr on September 02, 2010, 08:42:13 pm
I shot a 120 gram arrow about 160 meters, but the angle was quite bad. It was my first time trying to foot shoot, so the arrow probably went higher than it went far.. I was also unable to get a feeling of how far I could draw before I drew the arrow too far, so I guess I was to much on the safe side not drawing the arrow further than 28" or so..

I'll give it a new try once I find time for it. With a little help someone could tell me when to stop the pull and how to get it to 45`.
Title: Re: 220#@30" W.Elm warbow
Post by: Marc St Louis on September 02, 2010, 08:49:20 pm
220# Sustanon? Deca Duranabolin?


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