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Title: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: zenmonkeyman on July 11, 2010, 09:50:43 pm
I stumbled across a source of saddle leather scraps (sold by the pound), so I bought some, with the following projects in mind.

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(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j191/zenmonkeyman/IMG_4619c_1.jpg)

For the string slap mitigator, I simply trimmed a piece up minimally, then since the leather is almost 1/4" thick, I made plunging angle cuts from 2 directions for the thong loops.  That way the leather against my skin is undisturbed by the thong coming through.  Worked out very nicely, IMO.  The V cut at my elbow is to prevent the leather from curling out and getting hooked by the string.  The thong is just leather shoelaces, and I cut a bungy adjusting clip out of a jacket I'm not going to wear any more.  So I don't have to tie a bow with my teeth.   ;D

The leather bow quiver in the last issue of Primitive Archer was a real eye-opener for me.  I thought if I modified how the pieces attach to the bow I could anchor them closer to the handle and mitigate potential noise-inducing movement.  I think I'll go to the range tonight and see how the new stuff works.  I'm especially looking forward to not holding a piece of cereal box cardboard to my arm with rubber bands.  And I'm especially looking forward to not yanking out arm hair while removing those rubber bands.  Thanks for looking!
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: Josh on July 11, 2010, 09:54:11 pm
dude... those look cool.  Great job!  :) 
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: zenmonkeyman on July 11, 2010, 09:55:17 pm
Thanks Josh!

Very little effort for the payoff, I must say.
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: JW_Halverson on July 11, 2010, 09:59:32 pm
"string slap mitigator"  hehehe, you work for the gub'ment?  I like that term.   What type of cereal box did you prefer, Wheaties or Count Chocula?

I'm going to have to try the bow quiver idea, looks pretty handy!
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: zenmonkeyman on July 11, 2010, 10:06:46 pm
Just for the street cred, I'm gonna say "Count Chocula."   ;)
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: n2everythg on July 11, 2010, 10:23:42 pm
I'm especially looking forward to not holding a piece of cereal box cardboard to my arm with rubber bands.  And I'm especially looking forward to not yanking out arm hair while removing those rubber bands.  Thanks for looking!"

LOL. Thats great. Doing what you gotta do....

I like your new armguard and bow quiver. Nice job. Let us know how the quiver works out.
N2
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: Diligence on July 11, 2010, 11:55:22 pm
good job Garrett....been meaning to try that type of quiver too....
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: HoBow on July 12, 2010, 12:06:16 am
Interesting quiver....might have to try and replicate  ;)  Can you post up some drawings or show them flat?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: zenmonkeyman on July 12, 2010, 01:32:28 am
Thanks for the comments guys!  I took my new kit to the range and am very happy.  The bow if anything is quieter with the quiver there to dampen vibration, it didn't affect my shooting, except to maybe improve it (I still suck), and doesn't make the weight of the bow unwieldy, but I AM used to carrying 7 lbs of steel for a hunting weapon.  I shot the bow with the quiver both full and then empty.  I thought there might be too much flopping or even bow slapping without arrows to stiffen the two pieces, but again it was a non-issue.

Here's a few pictures of one of the pieces.  They're the same except opposite.  I forgot to put a ruler in the shots, but the rough dimensions are 2" at the narrowest part, and about 6-61/2" long.  Just wing it, that's what I did.  The arrow grabbing holes are made with 3 cuts of an exacto blade, 1st an X, then cut out the back of the arrow-holding triangle.  The other half of the X facilitates loading of the arrows, like a funnel.  You'll notice that I thinned the leather for the bow attachment.  The center strap is totally thinned, and on either side of the strap it's thinned in a taper, but on the opposite side of the leather.  I did this because the leather is about 1/4" thick, and would have been difficult to fit nicely over the bow limb.  Make sure you plan the thinning so that the smooth side of the leather faces the direction you want it to.  I faced the smooth side up.

There's definitely room for tweaking the design, but I don't have any suggestions as to what to change or how.  I'm interested in any improvements anybody might come up with.

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Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: Cromm on July 12, 2010, 06:29:54 pm
Mad looking and great. I love it.
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: HatchA on July 12, 2010, 06:59:21 pm
I like those very much!  The bow quiver is inspired!!
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: Lombard on July 12, 2010, 09:22:26 pm
Cool project. Ain't it nice to make your own tackle?
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: zenmonkeyman on July 12, 2010, 09:33:53 pm
Thanks for the words, guys!  It IS very nice to make my own tackle.  Gotta make some more stuff before hunting season, which is coming right up.

Can't take credit for the idea, as I mentioned the last Primitive Archer mag had pics of a similar bow quiver.  Mickey Lotz deserves your kudos, even if I think mine is better.  ;)
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: aero86 on July 13, 2010, 12:26:47 am
dude.. that primitive bow quiver is nice!  i might have to try that out
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: Mickey on July 14, 2010, 05:37:21 pm
Thanks for the Kudos Zenmonkeyman.

I made and have been hunting with that type of quiver for close to 10 years now I suppose. I call it a "Floppy Quiver". I originally made it to hold one arrow which I wrote about in the Fall 2006 Issue called "Simplified Bow Hunting". Later I had a 2 arrow version sewn up so I could carry a small game/practice arrow. I can't stand carrying a metal/plastic 4 or 5 arrow quiver on my bows anymore. Just adds so much weight and makes it feel one side heavy.The floppy quiver itself adds but an ounce or two to the bow, and if you are carrying only one ot two arrows, the whole setup adds little weight to the weight of the bow, making it easy to carry through the woods all day without getting tired. Used to have instructions on my website before all the info was lost on how to make them and the Floppy Arra Rest (which i see you are also using on your bow). Good deal.

Happy Hunting

Mickey

Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: zenmonkeyman on July 15, 2010, 02:43:43 am
Thanks for the kind words, Mickey!  I am truly grateful for the idea.  I bought a pair of leather pants a while back at Liquidation World for $8, thinking I would make a quiver or two out of the legs.  I couldn't quite sell myself on the work involved in making one, or decide on a design.  It was a happy day when I read your article, even though I didn't know at the time where to get the leather.  The stitching looked like too much work too!  Then I literally happened across some thick saddle leather scraps in what I believe to be the finest store in the world.  Convergence.  It's Karma and The Cosmos telling me I'm on track.

The arrow rest is not entirely floppy (not on that bow anyways).  There's a deer antler shelf there, but I extended it with a floppy lip.  But another outstanding innovation!  I feel like I'm talking to a legend here.  Thanks again.

Garett
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: Mickey on July 15, 2010, 06:06:58 pm
LOL hardly a legend, just a fellow wood bow enthusiast, but thanks again for the kind words.

Good luck with your self projects. Overcoming different "issues" is how we gain a better understanding, and allow us to come up with unique and usable ideas that will often help others trying to overcome those same issues.

mickey
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: El Destructo on July 15, 2010, 08:25:06 pm
                                                  Your still and always will be Da Ferret

                                                                        ;D
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: zenmonkeyman on July 15, 2010, 09:54:38 pm
Are you mad at me Mike?  Because I happen to think set can sometimes be heated out?
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: El Destructo on July 16, 2010, 12:05:11 am
Now why would I be mad about that? if you can steam or heat out Set....more Power to You...I  just don't believe you can repair collapsed cells with steam....may be able to  bend the limb past the set....but the  damage is still done....jmo


Or do you think I called you a Ferret.....Garret....

I was talking about Mickey being The Ferret
Title: Re: Leather arm thingy & bow quiver
Post by: zenmonkeyman on July 16, 2010, 11:07:13 pm
Yep, you guessed it.  Funny and embarrassing.  I couldn't quite believe I was having a kindergarden flashback 35 years later...  But I assumed you were mad at me; sorry to have doubted you.  I deserve the eye roll you probably gave me.  I'm just happy I didn't grow red hair, or I would have forever been "Carrot".