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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bigcountry on May 12, 2010, 12:08:11 pm
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Any advise? This is braced 4" and pulled 17". Would you pull further? For some reason I have some very slight set right out of the "right" limb fade. I am not sure why. I would figured the left limb would be bending too much out of the fades, not the right.
Would you go ahead down and pull it further? Its a straight limbed design, slight reflex. 1.6" at the fades straight for 12" and then pyamiding to the .4" tips. Top limb(rightlimb) is 1.5" longer.
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn73/bigcountry_ky/Osage4/Osage5tiller17inch.jpg)
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Looks pretty good to me,I would go to full brace and then pull to weight you are wanting if all is still looking OK.Never pull over the weight you are looking for. What weight are you at 17 inches ?
PAPPY
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She is only 35lbs at 17". I haven't even came close to my 55lb target.
I am really taking it easy on this one. Its the cleanest piece of osage I ever had.
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looks pretty even, are you certain it's dry? - good luck !
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looks pretty even, are you certain it's dry? - good luck !
It better be. Mike M on here said it was over a year old, and I have had it almost a year and half. Not sure if its going to get dryer.
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Lookin good so far, I would work mid-limb out for a few tillering sessions, slowly increasing to my 55 draw weight. :)
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Lookin good so far, I would work mid-limb out for a few tillering sessions, slowly increasing to my 55 draw weight. :)
thanks, I was kinda thinkin that also as its thicker midlimb out.
I usually have this problem of not getting enough bend in the fades to midlimb and trying to make sure that happens this time.
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Looks good. First impression is make sure she is beginning to bend at the end of the fades. May be get it bending a bit more there. I'd alos get a little more bending mid limb on. Just a little. But it looks good as is and I'm n nitpicking. Jawge
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Looks good. First impression is make sure she is beginning to bend at the end of the fades. May be get it bending a bit more there. I'd alos get a little more bending mid limb on. Just a little. But it looks good as is and I'm n nitpicking. Jawge
Means a bunch coming from you. Thanks. I am only working like 1/2 hour at a time on this one. Usually I will get tunnel vision and work like 3 hours straight and get a hinge.
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Ok, update, need your guys eyes. Here she is at 21" on the tree. My gut says take midlimb out and bring her on home. She is 53lbs at 24". I have 5" to go.
Rubbing her real slow with gentle love. She is at brace hieght of 5.5". Set has not gotten any worse.
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn73/bigcountry_ky/Osage4/Osage4tiller21inch.jpg)
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Ya I would a little on the mid 1/3 of the limbs and maybe just a touch on the right limb right out of the fad. Looking good. :)
Pappy
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I thought I reconized that wood,,that would make it 3 years old its dry,,, keep up the good work ;)
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I thought I reconized that wood,,that would make it 3 years old its dry,,, keep up the good work ;)
Best piece of osage I ever worked on.
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Big, what's going on in that right limb 8-10 in from the tip. Is it naturally reflexed there? Jawge
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George, good eyes, yes that side is naturally reflexed about 1.5". I didn't reflex the other side and wondering if I should have.
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I think you are doing fine. Work mid limb on as needed for my draw length. I'd be using a scraper-like tool now. Jawge
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Dad gone guys, I have removed a bunch of material from the outer third, and she still won't loosen up.
Here she is at 24" and 50lbs. So I have 4" to play with. I am taking her slow as molassas now.
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn73/bigcountry_ky/Osage4/Osage424inch50lbstiller1.jpg)
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Still looks stiff in the outer limbs as you said. With the inner limbs bending more getting the outers to bend is slow but go slow! they will give eventually. Keep them well exercised too.
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Thanks Pat, I am putting her down tonight. I am trying only to tiller 1/2 hour at a time. Might take me until Christmas. ;D
Prettiest piece of osage I ever had from Mike M. Don't want to do something stupid.
Thanks again.
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Ok, found time to work on her again. Last week I rawhide backed with some deer hide. The wood had these little tiny holes in the back that worried me. Barely see em.
Goodness, I feel like the outer limbs are never going to loosen. Here she is at 25" and 55lbs. I only have like 3-4 left to get her right. I wanted her finished at 55-60lbs.
Outer limbs still stiff. Starting to side tiller to get some mass out of the outer limbs. My tiller gizmo says I have weak spots doing most bending about 3" out of the fades. I am hoping that will loosen up as I finish up the outer thirds.
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn73/bigcountry_ky/Osage4/Osage425inch55lbstiller1.jpg)
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Outer limbs are starting to come around now. One thing that I have learned over many bows is not to pull the bow any further than you need to see a problem - that helps cut down on set.
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Outer limbs are starting to come around now. One thing that I have learned over many bows is not to pull the bow any further than you need to see a problem - that helps cut down on set.
Gordon, I am thinking of sweating this bow (keeping it strung for a few hours) This is where I have ruined a bunch of bows. I get aggravated when things stay stiff and take off a bunch and then after shooting in, I might get a weak spot.
I never sweated a bow before, and never really liked the idea of keeping one strung for hours. You ever do it?
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Sometimes,I do when I am getting really close towhere I want to be.I will string and unstring,Draw it a little,shoot it some at a short draw and leave it strung for an hour or so.Especially if it has been slow about coming around. Yours is looking good.Don't get in a hurry now. :)
Pappy :)
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Lookin' good, Big. When I believe the limbs are getting a bit thin and not coming around then I slowly start to narrow them until they come around. Jawge
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Sometimes,I do when I am getting really close towhere I want to be.I will string and unstring,Draw it a little,shoot it some at a short draw and leave it strung for an hour or so.Especially if it has been slow about coming around. Yours is looking good.Don't get in a hurry now. :)
Pappy :)
I think I am going to take this advise. And continue to narrow outer limbs. I hate handshock and I figured narrower, the less.
Thanks Pappy and George. I was wondering if it would be bad to shoot some short drawn shots. A little confidence goes far.
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Well with summer and all, I haven't been bow building as much, but want to get this one done. Here she is at 28" and about 57lbs. I am thinking to stick a fork in it. I have one inch to go and wanting 55lbs - 58lbs.
So before I go reducing limbs, Any suggestions? Thinking i need to remove some material on the right fade and get it bending some there.
(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn73/bigcountry_ky/28inches57lbs2.jpg)
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This is a straight profile bow right? If you were to scrape anywhere I would maybe do a few scrapes mid limb. Also I find that once I'm an inch from final draw I start sanding the bow. I usually settle right at target weight at target draw when I do that. If I try tiller to target draw length I'm usually shy of intended weight once it's sanded up. Just my 2 cents but consider the source ;) ;D
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Only built one I would say remove right limb near the third verticle tape line. You will
lose some weight as you shoot it in and as said when you sand heavily.
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Ya, Ya,,she's doen and very nice work. It's a challenge when you have one limb a tad reflexed and the other not. You did well. Jawge
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Ya, Ya,,she's doen and very nice work. It's a challenge when you have one limb a tad reflexed and the other not. You did well. Jawge
George, thinking of giving the last 8" of the right (top limb) a bit of sanding. Top limb is 1.5" longer so thinking it should be showing more bend? What would you recommend.
Thanks all to the comments. I know I have bugged you guys for months. This bow build is taking forever.
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I recommend you go outside and shoot it, Big. Don't worry about tuning and where the arrows are going. As you pull try to sense if the limbs are tipping and note how it feels on release. Is it a gentle push or are the limbs slamming home at different times and then take it from there regarding whether you should sand it or not. Let us know. Jawge
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This bow build is taking forever.
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That's why you're gonna end up with a sweet bow with the weight you wanted ! ;)
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I recommend you go outside and shoot it, Big. Don't worry about tuning and where the arrows are going. As you pull try to sense if the limbs are tipping and note how it feels on release. Is it a gentle push or are the limbs slamming home at different times and then take it from there regarding whether you should sand it or not. Let us know. Jawge
She feels even. But real heavy at the end of the cycle. Not real smooth throughout the draw cycle. I read another place that, this is a good sign. Hard for me to beleive. They claimed the limbs were working well if they feel real heavy. Where they might feel spongy if you have a hinge. Maybe half eye wrote that. Not sure. Thinking of whipping the ends a tad. Little handshock