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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: Knocker on March 31, 2010, 02:53:49 am

Title: Slab Thickness?
Post by: Knocker on March 31, 2010, 02:53:49 am
Hey Guys,
Trying to cut some slabs for the first time - Glass Butte obsidian.   I'm afraid I might be making them too thick.  Is there a rule of thumb for thickness?  Does the length x width of the slab figure into it, or is it based on what you are trying to create?

Thanks,
Knocker
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: jcinpc on March 31, 2010, 02:58:34 am
if your pressure flaking yes the width does matter. Your flake has to be able to run at least to the middle. As for percussion 5/8 is a common thickness, thats all I have ever cut my rock for is the percussion thickness
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: rileyconcrete on April 01, 2010, 12:15:50 am
Keith,

Have you tried any of the slabs I gave you?  I usually cut my slabs at 1/4 inch to 3/8 inch.  The widest I make the blades are as far as I can run a flake to the middle.  If you need any help PM me and I will Tell you my phone # and we can talk.

Tell
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: caveman2533 on April 01, 2010, 01:27:08 am
I usually cut my slabs according to the width they are coming off the rock. If it is not more than 1.5 " w then 1/4 to 5/16 as a slab get wider it becomes more of a percussion slab and will get thicker.  2 -3 inches wide 7/16ths to 1/2 thick   and if they  are 4  or more wide,  5/8ths and even more if they are really large, up to an inch or more.
Steve
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: Knocker on April 01, 2010, 02:18:29 am
Thanks Tell and Steve... Increasing the thickness with width makes sense to me.  I think for most of the slabs I am making now, that I just want to work on arrowheads and small knives or spearheads, so even if they could be larger slabs, I might make them 1/4 to 3/8 thick and resaw the slabs into smaller pieces for pressure flaking.  I've got some dacite I can always practice percussion on.

Keith
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: brian melton on April 01, 2010, 02:56:02 pm
Keith,

             What are you using for a saw?
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: Knocker on April 03, 2010, 02:41:18 am
Brian - I am using a 16" diamond blade saw with a screw drive rock clamp.  I'll probably spend the day tomorrow cutting slabs.

Keith
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: sailordad on April 03, 2010, 10:10:14 am
just throwing this out there

i like slabs of obsidion  ::) ;)
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: caveman2533 on April 03, 2010, 11:05:15 am
Keith,
If you want slabs that are all the same just block a piece out  and then slice it like a loaf of bread. then they will all be consistent size.   I don't always cut them random size like I posted earlier.  That depends on what rock I am cutting also. If it is more rare material I usually cut them random as they come off the rock, if it is more common material like obsidian I will block them sometimes and cut them consistently.  But I usually cut as large a block as I can and will snap individual slabs from  larger ones with a tile cutter.
steve
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: brian melton on April 03, 2010, 09:33:48 pm
Keith a lapidary saw, or something you made, got a pic?
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: Knocker on April 04, 2010, 02:34:00 pm
Brian - Here is the saw I am using...

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Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: Knocker on April 04, 2010, 02:40:29 pm
It amazes me how different some of this Obsidian looks with backlighting.  Look at these pairs...

The last one has a beautiful gold sheen, but I have no idea how to photograph it.

Keith

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Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: rileyconcrete on April 04, 2010, 02:57:54 pm
Dang Keith.  Looks like you have lots to knap now.  You really picked up some nice rock.

Tell
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: Knocker on April 04, 2010, 03:24:31 pm
Happy Easter Tell!  And all the rest on PA as well! Yeah, the plan is to get it all cut up while the wind is howling and the rain/sleet/snow is rattling the tarp.  Hopefully my knapping skill will take a jump when it warms up enough to set a stool out next to the saw...

Keith
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: caveman2533 on April 04, 2010, 11:13:09 pm
Man that is some beautiful rock,
Steve
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: brian melton on April 05, 2010, 01:07:05 am
Looks home made keith where did you get that at?? What did ya have to give?? I sold a 20 inch saw for $1650 last week. ;D
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: Knocker on April 05, 2010, 03:04:53 am
Brian - Yeah, it's homemade, and I think who ever did it did a great job.  The only thing I could wish for is the ability to gear up the drive a bit.  It is only cutting at a 1/2" per minute. It would be nice if you had a two speed for hard and soft rocks.  The price is the best I could ask for - I am  borrowing it for free.  It belongs to my neighbor who hasn't used it for years.  He said he paid $50 for it...  Think I should offer to double his investment???!!!!   >:D

Keith
Title: Re: Slab Thickness?
Post by: brian melton on April 05, 2010, 11:37:57 am
Yep I would jump on it! Bet you could figure the gearing problem out. ;D