Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: hedgeapple on March 07, 2010, 10:00:06 pm
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I just glance over to my old tobacco pipes on my desk and wonder, does any of the talented people on here make pipes? If so I'd love to see them.
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i made one out of deer antler and used a piece of sapling for the stem. split down the center, tough to do, and then carved the pulp inside, out and wrapped it back into one piece. its only a ceremonial pipe, not daily use, plus i dont smoke. i use it on prayers.
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I used to make all kinds of em back in the 70's ;D :-X O:)
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I used to make all kinds of em back in the 70's ;D :-X O:)
LOL!!!!! *tips hat*
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right on there man :D
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You guys are cracking me up.
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I used to make all kinds of em back in the 70's ;D :-X O:)
i stll have mine from the late 70's- early 80's,keep sake for the times i dont or barely remember ;D >:D
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Ever make a "pipe" from a soda can? :)
I have always wanted to try out pipe making....the legit kind. It looks fun, even though I dont smoke a pipe. Anyone have any hints about types of wood for the bowl, stem, etc?
Dane
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i have some pipe stone,and one pipe i already started cuttng out of it.
well shouldnt say "already started cutting it out"
its been in the making for 2 yrs now :-[
maybe this summer ill get it finished
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i have made them from just about of any type of wood i dont think it matters what its made out of as long as it pleases the user
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I used to make all kinds of em back in the 70's ;D :-X O:)
i stll have mine from the late 70's- early 80's,keep sake for the times i dont or barely remember ;D >:D
The Cops got all mine back in 1982...... That's why. I ended up in Texas..... ;D
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Dane, Mountain Laurel(Kalmia latifolia) root supposedly make an excellent pipe bowl next only to Merchem (sp) a European plant burl. We have tons of Mt Laurel around here.
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I used to make all kinds of em back in the 70's ;D :-X O:)
Peace pipes...sort of...?
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I used to make all kinds of em back in the 70's ;D :-X O:)
Peace pipes...sort of...?
Ya Frank sort of ::) :D
Pat ain't Mt Laurel poisonous ???
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I used to make all kinds of em back in the 70's ;D :-X O:)
Peace pipes...sort of...?
Ya Frank sort of ::) :D
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coool... 8) 8) 8)
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Dana, if you are a cow or horse. ;D
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It's highly toxic to humans, also-but I think most of the toxin is in the leaves/flowers. People have died from eating honey made from moutain laurel blooms. Conversely, it has been commonly used to make spoons from here, so much that some folks call it spoonwood.
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Here is a pipe I made from a scrap of red pipestone that my Lakota buddy gave me. I used it when I did a little re-enacting a few years back. I used to smoke that American Spirit brand tobacco from this pipe and some times their Pow-Wow blend. It was quite a satisfying pipe, though I have quit now for three years. The stem is bamboo or rivercane (I don't know for sure which)
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Hedgeapple, I made one for the hell of it, that I saw used quite a bit, when I was in the Army in the 60's. They would take a .308, and and .556/223 shell, and make a pipe out of them. The would cut the neck of the..308 about a 1/4 to 3/8' down from the shoulders, and then they would take the .223, and near the base they would drill a hole in one side of the case, the size of the neck of the .308 and insert the inverted neck and shoulders of the .308, and silver solder it in place, and wallah, a pipe. Man you could use a 20mm and a Fifty cal, and you could have a communal pipe...... ;D They would sometimes get one of the motor pool guys to get them some gas line filter brass mesh screen, and they would line the bottom of the pipe bowl with that, and they would put......uh......stuff ::)......in the bowl, and light it, and smoke it. 8) The necked down part of the .223 was the mouth piece, or you could insert a carved piece, depending on how fancy you wanted to get. The stuff.....some was blond, some was real dark....some stuff had stems and leaves and sometimes seeds ;D......I guess it was a ceremonial type of pipe, because one of the guys was a full Sioux, and after smoking one of those little pipes, he would turn the small trash can over and sit on his bed, with his legs crossed, and tap the bottom of the little trash can, and sit there with his eyes closed, and sing native songs, in the Sioux language. Of course GI's being GI's could not let him sing alone, so they too after a little pipe smoking, would sit around, tapping on the trash, can, or what ever they could find, and sing along. Not exactly the same words...... ;D I think some of the ......stuff ::)......I saw going into those little pipes would definitely make you see visions...... :o
I have made corn cob pipes when I was a little kid, and made a little one out of a betel nut palm/Arricca palm seed kernel. I don't smoke now, so I don't have any pipes any more.
Notice: This is not intended to induce anyone to run out and try to make any of these pipes. It is purely intended for informative and entertainment value only...... ;D Honest ! O:)
Wayne
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Orcbow, that a cool little pipe you have there.
Stickbender, haha, good Ol' Yankee ingenuity. :)
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... and they would put......uh......stuff ::)......in the bowl, and light it, and smoke it. 8) .... The stuff.....some was blond, some was real dark....some stuff had stems and leaves and sometimes seeds ;D......... I think some of the ......stuff ::)......I saw going into those little pipes would definitely make you see visions...... :o
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Not 100% sure of what stuff exactly you meant by... stuff... 8) 8) 8)
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Well Frank....I can make a safe wager that....The Stuff isn't no Sheesha.......... >:D
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A hundred years ago there was a company somewhere around here that made pipes from Mt Laurel root burls. Maybe it wasn't the tobacco after all that killed all those smokers. ::)
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Well Frank....I can make a safe wager that....The Stuff isn't no Sheesha.......... >:D
Uuh, I see...so that stuff is...probably some other.........stuff... :o :o :o
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I was gonna say while reading the description of your pipe Stickbender, that it would be hard to get much more than that blond stuff from Lebanon in the bowl. ::) 8)
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Eddie, actually they preferred the dark. It all came from Turkey. Some bigger bowls were made for the leaf and bud ......stuff.
Medicinewheel, it was good stuff. ;) Some of the pipes were the .308 case, that was cut off about a 1/2 inch above the rim, and the primer knocked out, and a hole was drilled into the .223 case, at the base of it, and the .308 bowl was soldered to it. I had heard, of but never seen them made with .50 cal shells. 8) Used to be a guy who made a monthly trip to Turkey. It was just after they passed the law, that no matter if you were in the military or not, if you got caught in a foreign country with any of...... that .....Stuff ::).....you were subject to their laws, and you would have no recourse through the American Embassy. :o He was lucky. He would come back with a couple little bricks of blond and dark ......stuff. ::).....then he would proceed to cut it into little cubes. I warned him about the new law, and he said he was not worried......right till he gets caught.....said he met his supplier, on a bridge, and never had any problems. Like I said he was lucky. ;)
Wayne
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It seems many a bowyer had a mis-spent youth. I can see the new anti . . . stuff campaign now. "Smoking stuff will lead to whitling logs into stick bows. haha haha
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Stuff...it's what's for breakfast! >:D
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Wayne...ya notice that the Bowl on my Pipe...aint so big....it's about right for dat DARK Lebaneese STUFF...dat comes in Bricks...and rhymes with Cash or Stash..... :o
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HAHA Party on dudes 8)
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Yeah, fer sure Dude. I noticed that right away......I was told by the guy who went to Turkey for the......"Stuff", that the Dark Stuff, was mixed with camel dung. At least that is what he was told. I don't know. I guess that is what made it really good $..t! ;D
Yeah, I guess it could kinda make you want to whittle on something larger than a peg, or get so mellow, that you want to break rocks, into smaller pieces, just for exercise ::)......or get used to busing bigger rocks for the State...... :o I have some stone that I bought at a Pow Wow, and it was supposed to be Pipe Stone, (Catlinite sp? ) But it is really hard to saw. It is like red brick. I tried sawing a chunk, and after an hour, and wearing out my rod saw, I put it up. I guess I will have to wait to get some from Wyoming, when I pass through.
Wayne
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This Catlinite is as soft as Soapstone nearly...hand shaped and drilled easy as pie...came from the Quarry in Minny-Soda....... ;D
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Supposedly that is where this came from, but I doubt it. I don't know what it is, but sure isn't soft like soapstone.
I had Cousins that lived in St. Paul, but moved to Trego Wisconsin. Thought one day I might drive across country when I move out there, and visit, and try to get some from the quarry. Wherever it is , ....Minny na polis? ;D
Wayne.
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... It was just after they passed the law, that no matter if you were in the military or not, if you got caught in a foreign country with any of...... that .....Stuff ::).....you were subject to their laws, and you would have no recourse through the American Embassy. ....
Does this eventually mean that... stuff... is illigal in some sort of way?? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Well, not in certain clubs, in Amsterdamn...... ;D
Wayne
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I just started fooling around making pipes a few weeks ago. I think wild rose is used, cherry is high on the list as is plumb wood. The burl of any of these woods is prefferable. The curing process for the burl takes years, they bioil it for hours to remove the oils, they want the wood not so heavy and pourous. I have been selecting plumb branches that have a small branch comming off at about 30 degrees or so that I use for the stem. Very addictive just like bow making. I think I am going to concentrate on the plumb as it is easy for me to get. If you can find woody briar, I think rose or green briar are best. Steve
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Well, not in certain clubs, in Amsterdamn...... ;D
Wayne
Uuuuh, I see...
(Remember some 15 years back sitting in a street café next to the Amsterdam Royal Carré Theatre after a gig there with some of the other guys from the band, one had rolled what appeared to look like a cigarette the shape and size of an Eb clarinet and appearently with some ...stuff in it. When these two policeman came by, I walked over to them asking for a light which one of them gave me sayin' 'have a good time'. A SPECIAL moment even for an European...)
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lol. apparently you guys were quite fond of....stuff. :P
methinks ima make one of those shell caseing pipes. not for stuff, but for tobacco.
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Haven't had any "stuff" in many years but now in Michigan you can get a card for "medical stuff" ;D Hmmm wonder if my bad shoulder qualifies me :P
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Haven't had any "stuff" in many years but now in Michigan you can get a card for "medical stuff" ;D Hmmm wonder if my bad shoulder qualifies me :P
Always thought of the ...stuff to be medical... homeopathic... sort of... ;D ;D ;D
PS: it's been a looooong time for me, too, ...ten, almost eleven years... quit all the same day: alcohol, cigarettes and ...stuff...
PPS: that ...stuff has taken over this thread completely...sorry for the hi-jacking...
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Well, I can honestly say it was Special growing up in Tropical Florida in the 60's and 70's.
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wayne, i have a nice slab of catlinite
right from the quarry in PIPESTONE,MN
i know because i purchased it there.
it weighs about 10#,enough for atleast two nice pipes in it.
i would be willing to part with it for the right stuff if your interested ;)
ya'll should see PipeStone,Mn.the majority of the ols buildings in town(the original buildings)
are made completly from catlinite blocks.very pretty buildings too.
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Yepher Eddie, the climate, soil......yep, nice times 8)......Sailordad,: What kind of ......stuff......would you be looking for?
Wayne
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what ya got ;D
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nice guys. haha ;D
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let me go check my closet...
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Sailordad, I only have some smaller pieces of Obsidian, nothing larger than about six to seven inches or so. I could box up some in a flat rate box. ;)
Wayne
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wayne, i'll pass on the obsidion.seems like if its not in slab form all i do is destroy it with nothing to show for it
destroyed a nice chunk of triple flow mahogony today :'(
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I know the feeling, believe me, I know the feeling..... ;D
Wayne
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Now I want to make a pipe for the sake of making one. What wood would be good for a pipe?
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OK, finally got a chance to take some pics. Here is a pipe I made in '04...made of mesquite heartwood. The stem is a glue-up of two pieces with a channel cut with a table saw (notice the square opening).
Took me three tries and lots of wood shavings to get it right. After I broke it in, I burned some runes into it with a fancy wood burning tool. I smoke mild tobacco, not "stuff", in case you're wondering. ;)
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That's a good looking one, Patrick.
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Nice work, Patrick.
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:) Thanks
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Cool looking pipe Jack, Since this thread started I have been following landscaper around and inspecting the bushed they are pulling up for sources of burl. I scored today, they were chopping down a pepper tree that had some nice burl on it. Not much character but very solid looking. Now I just have to wait for it to dry.
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awesome man. and no stuff just tobacco? haha :D and good luck with your pipe badger
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Badger, when you say pepper tree, do you mean the Brazilian pepper tree? I hope not. That is not a wood you want to make a pipe out of. Might, could be a bit toxic. :o I know the sap is not friendly, and I wouldn't eat the peppers, although they do look like the same kind I have seen in stores. Maybe Hillbilly can elucidate a bit more...... ;D
Wayne
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Badger, how about an old driver golf club head, that is not laminated? ;)
Wayne
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I believe it is a brazilian pepper tree. The burl is interesting does not seem to have any visible growth rings are grain almost looks like monolithic plastic. No character at all.
I know persimmon was used for golf clubs and also produces some nice burl with a lot of character if you can find it.
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Jackcrafty, nice looking pipe. I think I'm going to start looking for burls. I have one on a ironwood stave I just split. I'm not sure if the grain and texture will show up well one such a white wood. Also, I saved a cedar burl last year. But, cedar might just catch on fire while I'm smoking it. haha
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Anyone know anything about or tried the 'native' blends of smoke, like what is sold on crazy crow's site - I think they are a sponsor? - Is it tobacco mixed with other herbal things - what are the other things if so???
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Parnel...is this true Indian Tobacco..... Like Kinni Kinick ?? If it's Kinni Kinick....it isn't all Tobacco...it's a Blend...and it matters what part of the Country it comes from...and what Tribe.... Eastern Woodlands Tribes used native Tobaccos...and Tree Roots and Bark for Flavoring.... Northern Coastal Tribes used Native Tobaccos and also used Native herbs and Barks from their areas to flavor theirs....Northern Plains Indians used Native Tobaccos and Herbs...along with Leaves for theirs....some even use Cherries and Blueberries in them...They are all Natural....and uniquely Flavored....it ain't like the old Rumors...it ain't Buffalo Crap........ ;)