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Title: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: El Destructo on February 14, 2010, 11:13:21 pm
Can You believe this ???? And the real funny thing is...Some Poor Soul will purchase this.......... ;D

cgi.ebay.com/longbow_W0QQitemZ200439675528QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2eab22ba88
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: kylerprochaska on February 14, 2010, 11:19:19 pm
wow! that is the oddest bow I think ive ever seen  ::)  I think the only bow (if I had the money) id buy on ebay right now is this one by twisted limbs

cgi.ebay.com/Osage-Self-Bow-long-bow-recurve-traditional-archery_W0QQitemZ180468485347QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a04c28ce3#ht_500wt_1181

but we all know twisted makes some good bows....lol I still can't get over that bow hahahaha

-Ky
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Josh on February 14, 2010, 11:23:40 pm
what WAS that thing?  It was really scary looking to me, I don't want any part of it.  Don't lie Mike you know you are the one selling that bow, you can't fool me no SIR!   ...put me down for 3... :D -josh
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: ken75 on February 14, 2010, 11:31:23 pm
hey i worked long and hard on that thing , modeled it after my crooked lawyer !! no joke i sux at bow building but damn thats worse than mine !!
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: ricktrojanowski on February 14, 2010, 11:52:39 pm
El D
That dosen't look like your other builds, but good luck on sales. ;D
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: sailordad on February 14, 2010, 11:58:46 pm
hey come on now fellas

why ya'll gotta be so critical,i already ordered 2,for me and the wife for spring turkey
i figure if the ground buzzards so us hunting with them bows
even they will laugh so hard rhat we will be ablt to walk up and club the with them bows  ;D
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: El Destructo on February 15, 2010, 12:01:18 am
I thought that you would get a Kick out of it and His Other Bows..... ::)
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: sailordad on February 15, 2010, 12:02:42 am
thats worse then the bows you see in some bad "b" horror type flicks
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: adb on February 15, 2010, 12:18:21 am
WTF is that ??? ??? ??? I've never seen anything quite like that. Yikes.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: El Destructo on February 15, 2010, 12:22:04 am
Sorry....forgot it was an Auction.....just put the    http://      with it and it will work
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: elk country rp on February 15, 2010, 01:55:29 am
and somehow it still has zero bids..... ???
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Ryano on February 15, 2010, 09:11:58 am
 :o  ::)  :D  :-X
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Hillbilly on February 15, 2010, 11:47:06 am
Hey, if ya'll don't like my bow, just say so...;D ;D ;D  Just kidding. I think I'll order a case of 'em, myself. :)
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: medicinewheel on February 15, 2010, 04:03:34 pm
That thing is simply unbelievable!

PS: hope twisted gets a good priece for his, that's a nice bow!


Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on February 15, 2010, 09:59:04 pm
i saw it was a post for ebay and i was like    "awww crap, i hope they aren't diggin on mine"       lol i was relieved to see it wasnt mine and not only that but to see the nice words from
kylerprochaska and medicinewheel. thanks guys. - Ryan
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Diligence on February 15, 2010, 10:26:33 pm
Out of curiosity, I asked the seller, "Very interesting shape. Could you post an unbraced shot? I'm curious about the abrupt bending (hinge?) right at the fade area."

His response, "I sure will. The design is one that shapes the bow that way when the wood is laminated. I think it works very well, kind of a hybrid bow. It looks the same unstrung, but I will post a picture. Thank's for your interest."

Let's see what it looks like unbraced.

j
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: aznboi3644 on February 15, 2010, 10:53:53 pm
Those tips look way huge and massive...nonbending tips that are more than half the length of the limb??

I hope no one buys that hideous thing...I'm not even gonna call it a bow.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: sulphur on February 15, 2010, 11:33:19 pm
Holy Cow.   somebody needs to intervene, maybe he just doesn't know any better :o   
btw  If this site does a bow swap i got dibbs on Twistedlimbs!  great bow ryan, i wish i had some rainy day money.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: AKmud on February 16, 2010, 09:23:12 pm
He has an unbraced pic up now.....he was right, it doesn't look any different!  Not so sure I like his "hybrid" design. 
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Diligence on February 16, 2010, 11:25:15 pm
Well....is there any way that design is based on a time proven design?
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: medicinewheel on February 17, 2010, 03:28:04 am
I can't tell a difference in shape from braced to unbraced!
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: aznboi3644 on February 17, 2010, 05:02:10 am
I can't tell a difference in shape from braced to unbraced!

Hell I can hardly tell what portion of that limb is bending.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: medicinewheel on February 17, 2010, 09:32:10 am
It's actually the guy's first sale, and he offers 3 more at the same time...
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: VenomBOWslinger on February 17, 2010, 10:06:48 am
I cant find it can someone post up a pic I need a luagh... >:D >:D

Also go on ebay type Long Bow there is a seller truetruth777 selling a pacific yew that looks like a straight tree branch for $700.00 Im in the wrong business!
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Parnell on February 17, 2010, 11:49:44 am
That's a looker for sure!  Woof.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: DanaM on February 17, 2010, 12:56:38 pm
Now ya all know why I need to quit drinking eh ;) :D Dang it looked good after 20 beers :P :D
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: RidgeRunner on February 17, 2010, 03:48:07 pm
Just looked that bow?? up.
Somebody tell this guy about PA.

David
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: kerryb on February 17, 2010, 05:17:13 pm
I cant find it can someone post up a pic I need a luagh... >:D >:


Me either, please post a pic
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Josh on February 17, 2010, 05:21:02 pm
just put "http://" in your address bar at the top of your internet page and then copy pasta that first link at beginning of post and it will take you there.   ;)
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Hillbilly on February 17, 2010, 07:36:13 pm
It's beautiful. You don't want to miss it. ;D
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: lowell on February 17, 2010, 08:29:03 pm
Is there an Avatar 2....he might have a gold mine!! ::)
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Justin Snyder on February 17, 2010, 09:14:50 pm
I guess Ill reserve judgment until I try one. He might just know something. If I had never seen a Yumi before I wouldn't believe it was a real bow.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Hillbilly on February 17, 2010, 09:34:20 pm
There was a guy named Adam Karpowicz (sp?) who used to make bows similar to that, I remember reading an article in the magazine once that he wrote about them. Seems like he was trying to get nearly zero brace height and long draws from short bows or something like that.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Diligence on February 17, 2010, 11:49:22 pm
Okay - so does anybody want to invite the seller to join this thread.....maybe he can shed some light on it in person?

J
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Ryano on February 17, 2010, 11:54:14 pm
 :-X :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on February 18, 2010, 01:29:20 am
I aint saying nothin cuz then he will see most everyone bustin on his bow
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: medicinewheel on February 18, 2010, 03:53:06 am
There was a guy named Adam Karpowicz (sp?) who used to make bows similar to that, I remember reading an article in the magazine once that he wrote about them. Seems like he was trying to get nearly zero brace height and long draws from short bows or something like that.

Karpowicz experimented with hornbows the way you describe; such a bow is pictured in TBB4, and his experience with it is described in detail at ATARN.
Honestly, I don't think this ebay guy's bow won't make it into TBB5...!

If the bow of the ebay guy had a side profile with let's say the working part being straight and the recurves being angled the way they are, there was no way to get this thing to be stable.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Justin Snyder on February 18, 2010, 12:56:29 pm
I aint saying nothin cuz then he will see most everyone bustin on his bow
How do you know he isn't already here and just keeping quiet?
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: medicinewheel on February 18, 2010, 01:22:59 pm

How do you know he isn't already here and just keeping quiet?
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Honestly, I wouldn't care!  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: El Destructo on February 18, 2010, 10:08:20 pm
Honestly, I wouldn't care!  8) 8) 8)

                                                                                             ;D
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on February 19, 2010, 12:17:18 pm
I aint saying nothin cuz then he will see most everyone bustin on his bow
How do you know he isn't already here and just keeping quiet?

ahhhhh. now i figured it out....must be justin's bow   lol
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Ryano on February 19, 2010, 01:38:56 pm
I aint saying nothin cuz then he will see most everyone bustin on his bow
How do you know he isn't already here and just keeping quiet?

ahhhhh. now i figured it out....must be justin's bow   lol


LoL.....  ;D
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: medicinewheel on February 19, 2010, 01:50:59 pm
I aint saying nothin cuz then he will see most everyone bustin on his bow
How do you know he isn't already here and just keeping quiet?

ahhhhh. now i figured it out....must be justin's bow   lol


LoL.....  ;D

JUSTIN's ??.... emm... well.... emm... Justin... emm...  O:) O:) O:)
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: medicinewheel on February 19, 2010, 01:57:54 pm
The guy actually got a bit on one of his four bows on ebay...
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: El Destructo on February 19, 2010, 03:09:54 pm
Now that's scary!
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Josh on February 19, 2010, 04:10:50 pm
in TBB4 there is a pic of a mini bow that looks kinda like it might be where he got his design from... I think it is page 133 or 134... it's 130 something...   :)
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Diligence on February 19, 2010, 04:45:23 pm
he has posted a full draw picture.....and it looks easily to be a 30" draw....if his notes are correct.

J
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Ryano on February 19, 2010, 04:52:28 pm
The guy actually got a bit on one of his four bows on ebay...


Probably him from another computer or one of his buddies.....  :P
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: medicinewheel on February 19, 2010, 06:43:27 pm
he has posted a full draw picture.....and it looks easily to be a 30" draw....if his notes are correct.

J

From the unbraced profile I would say it can easily be drawn 30" if not much further!

Found another ebay bowyer offering a 72" ntn hickory backed maple longbow, no kidding 14# at 28" draw!
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: nickf on February 19, 2010, 08:39:25 pm
Justin, I don't understand why you take a serious look at this bow. The yumi is very effective for the way it's used, and that's clearly visible. but this bow... is a laugh.

the guys who compare this bow to the karpowicz design... please, be less offensive. Karpowicz is one of the greatest hornbowbowyers alive. And his design is actually that of an extreme r/d. It's so far deflexed at the handle area that the fades touch the string when strung, but the limbs itself are highly reflexed. they lay (almost) flat when the bow is strung, and the string runs over the whole belly. This would give an extremely smooth draw, and, an incredible 'zip' in the last few inches.

Nick
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: medicinewheel on February 20, 2010, 12:19:54 am
...
the guys who compare this bow to the karpowicz design... please, be less offensive. Karpowicz is one of the greatest hornbowbowyers alive. And his design is actually that of an extreme r/d. It's so far deflexed at the handle area that the fades touch the string when strung, but the limbs itself are highly reflexed. they lay (almost) flat when the bow is strung, and the string runs over the whole belly. This would give an extremely smooth draw, and, an incredible 'zip' in the last few inches.
...

I didn't mean to be offensive towards Karpowicz' experimental design at all; the opposite I meant to say! I just corrected my post since it could have been misunderstood that way.
I'm aware of the fact that Karpovizc is a very skilled maker of hornbows. In fact I wrote a review of his book Ottoman Turkish Hornbows in one of the recent PA issues.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Justin Snyder on February 20, 2010, 11:16:06 am
Justin, I don't understand why you take a serious look at this bow. The yumi is very effective for the way it's used, and that's clearly visible. but this bow... is a laugh.

the guys who compare this bow to the karpowicz design... please, be less offensive.

Nick
Nick, what do you know about this bowyer or this bow?  You are judging it by first appearance only, and we all know from the BOM contest that sometimes the prettiest is judged best while it isn't really the best bow.  I am not taking it very serious, I didn't say it was a great bow or even a good bow. But I refuse to be "offensive" based on a simple glance at a crappy picture because I don't know the bowyer. I know the Yumi is a serious bow, but it looks goofy, that is why I used it as an example. Have you shot one of these bows to see if it is a laugh? Would you judge it the same if Karpowicz made it? I highly doubt it.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: ken75 on February 26, 2010, 05:28:20 pm
HOLY CRAP PILES !! he actually sold one, buyer said unique bow i love it !!!!
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Diligence on February 27, 2010, 01:43:20 am
well I'll be..... :-\

....okay somebody pony up the $60 (or whatever) and buy one for some testing.... 
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: El Destructo on February 27, 2010, 11:47:01 am
not me...but can I put you down for one of these........... >:D...cause We all must be doing it all wrong....


goto eBay...search....then type in ... 260560070830

then let me know if you want a dozen or a full 24 count case......... :P
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: Josh on February 27, 2010, 11:02:33 pm
...I liked that last one a whole heap of a bunch more than that first one...  ;D
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: aznboi3644 on February 28, 2010, 02:57:32 am
not me...but can I put you down for one of these........... >:D...cause We all must be doing it all wrong....


goto eBay...search....then type in ... 260560070830

then let me know if you want a dozen or a full 24 count case......... :P

I asked that seller to post a full draw shot...pretty much its bending all in the middle 8 inches or so of the handle
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: osage outlaw on February 28, 2010, 04:12:07 am
If I could tie a string onto a stick like that and sell them for $20, I would be rich.  Someone please explain to him what tiller means.
Title: Re: How Many Bows Can I Put You Down For???
Post by: NTD on February 28, 2010, 05:50:59 am
That's why they call it a stick bow...DUH!!! ::) :'( :'( :'(