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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Frode on February 11, 2010, 10:17:32 pm

Title: 15 year old osage
Post by: Frode on February 11, 2010, 10:17:32 pm
Hi all,
I just came into possession of a six foot by 3 1/2" wide split osage log (stave?).  So the story goes, this was selected and cut by a bowyer to become a bow stave, and was given to an acquaintance of mine to try his hand at bow making.  Fifteen years ago.  This acquaintance has now decided that, despite the best of intentions, he is not going to get that bow made, so he brought it to me to see if I was interested.  This wood was stored in a garage for the whole time, and so far, I don't see any sign of insect or rot damage.  There is a gnarly looking section of grain near one end, and a radial crack or check on one end, but it isn't too big, and would probably end up being cut out anyway.
I know this log's been sitting a long time, but this is Indiana, and I don't know if this state's ever been south of 20% humidity.
What say you, is osage this old still usable?
Frode

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Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: FlintWalker on February 11, 2010, 10:21:38 pm
If it doesn't have any insect damage it should make a dandy bow.  15 years is just well seasoned ;)
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: Woodland Roamer on February 11, 2010, 10:24:29 pm
It's no good, I will dispose of it for you.  :) Osage could lay outside for twice that long and not rot, that should make a great bow!

Alan
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: sulphur on February 11, 2010, 11:58:48 pm
Have at it!!!!!  if, however, you don't feel comfortable using such old wood i'll take it off your hands O:)   You know a few people have to ask, right!
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: flinthills50 on February 11, 2010, 11:59:56 pm
How wide is it? You might get two bows out of it! If the bark was removed you might want to remove the sapwood before you layout the bow. Sometimes when just the sapwood is left on, it will get checks/cracks that can damage the heartwood under it. Good Luck! It will make a great bow! Craig
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: Pat B on February 12, 2010, 12:52:58 am
Take the sapwood off and see what the heartwood looks like. You won't know what you have until you find the back of the bow.
  Most of wish we had an osage stave that has 15 years of curing.
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: straightarrow on February 12, 2010, 01:22:42 am
I've been using osage that is eleven years old. I have about 10 staves left. Some of it was checked pretty bad, but I just kept chasing another ring until it was gone. I have made three bows from it so far and they all have been sucessful

Jon
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: El Destructo on February 12, 2010, 01:40:38 am
I have heard of 50+ year old Fence Posts of Osage being pulled up out of the Ground ... and worked down and made into Bows...the Stuff will last forever...Rot Resistant...Bug Resistant....and some very resilient wood for sure!
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: Pappy on February 12, 2010, 06:52:11 am
The older the better as far as I am concerned,it don't rot and if there is no bug damage you
have a fine piece of wood.My best bows have come out of older stuff.I often rough out a stave
and put it away several years before making a bow.Keep us updated on how it is going. :)
     Pappy
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: medicinewheel on February 12, 2010, 08:05:29 am
Looks like an exquisite piece of wood to me...!
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: adb on February 12, 2010, 10:35:39 am
Nah!!!!! That wood is junk. But, you can send it to me, and I'll throw it in my fireplace.  ;) O:)
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: Badger on February 12, 2010, 10:44:40 am
     I made one from a bee keeepers sign post that they claimed was 100 years old. Invested with some kind of wood ant but didn't ruin the stave, wood acted just like any other. Steve
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: Frode on February 12, 2010, 11:53:25 am
Thanks for all the feedback, and the generous offers for waste removal  ;D.  This ones gonna have to cure a few more weeks anyway.  To paraphrase Richard Dreyfuss, "We're gonna need a bigger vise".
Frode
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: radius on February 12, 2010, 06:55:25 pm
a few more weeks!   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: woodstick on February 12, 2010, 09:06:54 pm
i got a goodun in the shop now that is 10 years old i got on a trade in great shape no sap wood on it allmost to 1 growth ring, just gota find time to work on it.
Title: Re: 15 year old osage
Post by: wodpow on February 16, 2010, 11:33:26 pm
The stave I bought from a bow shop was 12 years old and stored inside the store. The bark had came loose and pulled off  and was  almost as brown as walnut ,it was a joy to work and beings it was nice and dry the rings were easy to chase and the scrappers really let you know when you hit late wood.  I was able to use a big band saw and split it to make two bows and snake skinned  them both.