Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: half eye on February 09, 2010, 12:45:52 pm
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Based this bow on one of the pics I posted under the museum bows thread. It is bow# M 12663. The real bow is 1.5" wide and this one is 1.7", the real bow is 57" long and this one is is 57" NTN so it is not exactly the same. The bow's carved side is the only side that is tapered from 1.7" to 3/4" at the limb tips....the "off" side is straight. I hand sanded the bows limbs to be flat in profile (same thickness) but after it was shot in I thought I would measure it....turns out the bow is .60" at the grip, .57" at mid-limb, and .53" out at the tips. This taper was not intentional ...(so I figure that as you sand a limb the flat heavy sander just takes more off per stroke as the width narrows down).
I just sort of floor bent the bow till it felt "bendy". Then I layed out the correct number of "scoops" (they came out to be 5" between the "knobs") and notice that the last one (closest to the tip) is smaller on both bows (real and fake). I cut the depth of each by drawing a line parrallel to the tapered limb width line 1/4" toward the mid line. Then I cut the scoops out.....that is all I did and the bow came right into the tiller that you see....I was pretty suprised for sure. The bow weighed 52/53 at 25" so I estimated the weight as 60# @ 27".
The first set of pics is the usual draw, brace, set types and the second set are some close-up or detail shots. I did not wrap the grip because the museum example showed no signs of ever being wrapped. Enjoy the pics.....any questions....glad to answer if I can that is. Oh Ya this thing is just plain, flat out fast too.
half eye
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Beautiful bow,the tiller looks great to me. :)
Pappy
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Looks great Half eye! :) -josh
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Here are detail shots..........the last pic is a little bow I made that was 47" and tried to pull it 28" (even though the bow is invisible) and allmost got the whole shot. No it aint this bow.
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Another dandy Rich, thanks for sharing eh :)
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that last pic is scary looking... I haven't had that happen yet but I am sure it is in my future soon. :) -josh
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Aah, too bad this one blew... was beautiful! You really make nice bows!
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Beautiful bow and great action shot!!! :o Sorry it failed.
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no... this one didn't blow... He just posted a pic of a 47" bow that blew. ;) -josh
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Great bow Half Eye. It is plain but very functional. I really like it. What kind of wood is it? I would love to try one of these bows.
Thanks for posting.
Tell
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Reallly cool bow! I like it a lot, nice job! 8)
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Beautiful work as always, Rich. Just seems somehow "wrong" to not have the limbs symmetrical; but hey - it worked for them and still works today!
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Just goes to show that people only look at the pictures :D
It didn't blow ifin you read the text eh ;) :D
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no... this one didn't blow... He just posted a pic of a 47" bow that blew. ;) -josh
I'm confused... Well, good it didn't blow then...!
PS: Dana, I just read the text AGAIN (!!!) and still am confused... then again... I'm German (and PatB is an ooold man with a looong beard).
Anyway, glad it didn't blow...
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frank I'm guilty of just looking at the pictures :o Not always but too often ;) :D
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Nice bow, too bad the other one blew but at least you got a really cool action shot of it. I like how the string is pretty much froze in place but no bow to be seen.
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i think Parnell made a bow like this last summer...again, though: what kind of wood is it, my friend?
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Great job! Nice looking bow Rich. :o
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Fellas,
Sorry for not saying in the beginning....it's made from red elm. The little bow was made like this one but really scaled down like you can see it didn't work very well....couldn't have been the fact that it was overdrawn just a tad I'm sure ;D
Will post a pic of this bow along side the "corpse".
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Here is this bow...along with the "ghost"
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that sucks the little one blew man, it looked cool too. Well... at least you have a cool pic of it in action! ;) -josh
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frank I'm guilty of just looking at the pictures :o Not always but too often ;) :D
Aah Dana, ...honestly: there is no such thing as guilt...! 8) 8) 8)
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Maybe I missed this, too: what wood is it? Hickory??
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Just seeing that bow makes me want to get going on one. Nice paint, the red and green contrast each other. Did you use quartersawn?
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Maybe I missed this, too: what wood is it? Hickory??
Red Elm :)
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Grunt,
Ya it is, it was a piece left over from ripping some backers for a friend....the board gets to 1/2 to 3/4 and the old blind guy gets his fingers out of there....this was one of those left-overs.
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great looking bow! love the scallops and paint job - any idea what they used to dye the original?
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Postman,
I believe this bow was "post-contact" and the colors were probably trade items. They might be Native paints as well since the Ojibwa traded as far as the western plains and east all the way to Montreal and Ottawa. But the museum lists the color as "paint" so I do not think the colors are natural dyes. The Museum further states that the age of the bow is between 1865 and 1900.
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Thanks for the info!
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Astounding work as always, Half eye. Is there any tendency for the bow to twist? Being asymmetrical side to side?
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Nice bow Halfeye. I've been wanting to make that one for a while now. Too bad the little one broke, but glad you're not hurt.
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Fellas,
I have not noticed any signs of twisting in the hand as the bow is drawn....and no tourque in the bow hand as you release it so I dont think there is any twisting going on. Suppose I ought to have the wife take a pic at full draw from the correct angle to see.
The little one only broke because I was trying to see how far back it would go untill it did let go.