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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Easternarcher on February 07, 2010, 10:22:46 am

Title: String strand count question
Post by: Easternarcher on February 07, 2010, 10:22:46 am
Good Morning Folks!

Looking for a concenus here on number of strands of B50 for a 55lb longbow? First 55 pounder I've made and not sure of string count.

Any suggestions for best performance from an R/D???
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: Pat B on February 07, 2010, 10:42:45 am
I use 14 strands of B-50 for bows over 50# and 12 strands for anything under. I haven't make bows over 60# or so
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: Easternarcher on February 07, 2010, 11:22:39 am
I use 14 strands of B-50 for bows over 50# and 12 strands for anything under. I haven't make bows over 60# or so

I was planing on 3 ply so if I did 3 plys of 5 ea. I'd be good to go then...
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: Pat B on February 07, 2010, 12:47:26 pm
You'll be fine with that. Others may suggest fewer strands but I would rather have the extra insurance. I've never had a string break. (bite my tongue) ::)
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: El Destructo on February 07, 2010, 01:04:31 pm
                       I build all of my Bows around 50-55 pounds...and make all of My Strings 14 strand 2 Ply.......JMO
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: PeteC on February 07, 2010, 01:16:21 pm
I use 15 strands whether 2 or 3 ply for 50# and over.God Bless
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: bobnewboy on February 07, 2010, 05:04:18 pm
Regardless of the overall number of strands, I always use 3 skeins/plies of strands.  I find that 2 skeins give an odd shaped string section which needs more twists to make it round, when compared to 3 skeins.  If making spiral coloured strings, I use two skeins of the lighter colour, and one of the darker colour.  My favourite combo is yellow with black  :)
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: Hillbilly on February 07, 2010, 05:09:49 pm
I always use 14-strand two-plies for about everything. Oddly, I have made many three-ply and two ply strings, and have come to prefer the two-plies myself.
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: El Destructo on February 07, 2010, 05:15:20 pm
I always use 14-strand two-plies for about everything. Oddly, I have made many three-ply and two ply strings, and have come to prefer the two-plies myself.

                                                                           I must Concur........... ;)
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: Bent Rig on February 07, 2010, 05:34:59 pm
Do you guys like the 2 ply bundles because they are easier to make ? I thought the reasoning behind the 3 ply was that they made a rounder string ? I will have to try a 3 ply and decide myself -just wondering what your thoughts were are both .  8)
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: CraigMBeckett on February 07, 2010, 07:55:39 pm
I prefer 3 ply for the reason stated by bobnewboy, I also try and use 3 different colours. My B50's are made with white, brown and green and I think they look good.

Craig.
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: woodstick on February 07, 2010, 08:00:59 pm
i use 2 ply 15 strands i aint got the 3 ply down to my satisfaction yet. black and red looks good.
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: Okie on February 07, 2010, 10:48:22 pm
Wow, I must be under building my strings. I use 12 strands of B-50 2 ply on everything under 60#. Never had a problem... yet!
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: Bent Rig on February 07, 2010, 11:09:14 pm
20 - 30lbs. -  8 strands
30 - 35lbs. - 10 strands
35 - 45lbs. - 12 strands
45 - 55lbs. - 14 strands
55 - 80lbs. - 16 strands
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: bobnewboy on February 08, 2010, 09:55:32 am
Another thing I've started doing is following a suggestion by Marc St Louis in an old copy of PA (I bought the whole back catalogue!  ;D)

He suggested that when making a single-ended string (i.e one with only one laid-in loop), that the 'open' end could be plaited.  I have done this a few times now, when I'm unsure of the correct string length (we all have that moment...), plaiting-in the last 4-6 inches of the string.  This makes for a flat piece of bowstring at the other bow nock, and for me this seems to slip less when tied into a bowyer's knot/hitch than the round section of the rest of the string, even when waxed.  An example of this can be seen in my build-along:

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,14045.30.html
Title: Re: String strand count question
Post by: Hillbilly on February 08, 2010, 10:59:41 am
The reason many of us overbuild strings isn't because of strength, it's comfort. A ten-strand B50 string is plenty strong enough for most bows, but I don't like the small diameter-it's rough on the fingers, seems to stretch more, and if you're using a timber hitch on one end, they want to slip. The fourteen-strand also fits my arrow nocks perfectly after serving.