Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: mullet on January 26, 2010, 08:49:42 pm
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I picked up some gravel in the road at the job site today. There is some really nice chert and quartze that has been crushed in this road. Well I found a couple of small pieces I thought I could bang something out of. I had plenty of time, these drillers I have to watch are worthless. I don't think I'll get anything done before I have to leave. I wish I had brought some rock with me now. Here are a couple of little points I beat and pressure flaked out of that tough texas rock.
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Man that one on the left is some purty rock eddie :) make sure and stop on the way home and get tome of that Tallahatta from Jeff :)
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me likey ;D
usualy i take nice rocks and make gravel
you take gravel and make nice points
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Thanks, I think I'm starting to learn how to use that copper bopper again. I'd like a truck load of that brown stuff and there is some really nice looking pink rock too. I just can't find any pieces big enough.
Dana, If I can time it right I plan on doing that.
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That brown one is some pretty rock. Too bad you couldn't have found a big boulder of it. :D
Nice chippin too.
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Nice stone for pickin up gravel, I like the brown one also
VB
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Eddie, stop a dump truck driver and ask where the gravel came from. They often know where all of the local stuff comes from. Be safe.
Swamp
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Bjorn, I'm going to google Landscaping stone and see if I can save myself a 4 hour drive to the good stuff.
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nice i really like the quartz piece
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There ya go Eddie. On the other hand, what's an extra four hours when you already drove how many to get there from here? ;) ;D I saw some interesting stuff in a landscape/rock yard on Monday. I was with someone else and did not have the time to really get a really good look at it, but it's on the old radar now.
Swamp
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Jamie, that's a piece of chert. Bjorn, it's looking like I might be staying longer. If I do I'll have Sunday off so I'll make a rock run.
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Not sure if I should say I'm sorry or congrats. :-\ At least it will give you something to beat on while watching the crew drill.
Swamp
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Remember to throw a pebble or two in there for me ::)Wish you luck on your search
Bone pile
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That brown one looks to be mostly rootbeer, don't know about the othern - but they look good for sure ;). Take ya a drive around and check out all the construction entrances with rip/rap at the gate's. I've hauled home plenty of workable stuff outa those :).
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Those look good, Eddie. Their parents are bound to be out there somewhere.
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where in texas?
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Cowboy, I picked that up out of the riprap on this job site. It's mixed in with concrete. I went to a BarBQ resturant down the road from the job site today, guess what they had in their flower bed? A whole bunch of nice 6" long cobbles of Perdanales. I liberated some. Then one of our guys that's been here since November brought me more from his motel's flower garden. He said he'll take enough to load my truck if I make him a couple of points.
Paul, I'll have Sunday off, can you point me in the right direction for a road trip? Aero, I'm in Houston.
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;Head toward San Antonio. In the area of Floresville,east of San antonio, you should find some good chert. Wilson County has some of the best yields of paleolithic points in Tx and most of it is made from local stuff. Get west of San Antonio and the stuff is everywhere. Good luck and give us a look at what you find.
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xin, Thanks! I'm going to head that way in the morning. Are there any special places to look? like a known creek bed or something off the side of the highway? Or, is it obvious?
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I don't know the names of any particular creeks to look in, but when you get over around Floresville and just north of there I would hit any creeks of opportunity. I know of one archaeological site just north of Floresville at Sutherland Springs that produced at last count 17 side notched knives. The area I've been talking about is South of Interstate 10. If you go north of Interstate 10 up around the New Braunfels area just take back roads and you can see it lying almost everywhere in the fields. I have been on archaeological digs along Cibola creek that were very productive artifact wise but didn't notice any chert in the area of the dig along the creek, although there is chert in the area. sSorry I can't be more specific, but there is chert all around the San Antonio area. Good hunting
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xin, Thanks, you've been a lot of help. I've got the map out and plotting my course. I hate to go home with out at least looking.
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Just got back,man that's a lot of driving. I started out looking up in Bexar County near Bandera and didn't find anything worth a darn. So I headed south towards Laredo. I came off 410 and Tx-16, at I-35 and found some there. I loaded up about 300# out of a corn field. It sure would have been easier if it hadn't rained Friday. My boots weighed about 25# each when I finally quit.
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Congratulations , I knew you would hit the jackpot somewhere. Isn't Bandera a neat little town. Have had breakfast there several times. Didn't realize you would get as far as Bandera. Bandera, Kendall,Kerrville, and Medina counties are in the epicenter of Tx chert. If you had headed north a little you could have picked up some Pedernales. Now, Iwant to see some of your points from this stuff.
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Damn, Eddie! I missed out on your rock run! Glad your going home with some workable stuff though ;). My first rock run was from around Bandera (Pipe creek area). xin didn't steer ya wrong! Any creek bed, corn field, roadside, or hell even in the road around there aughta turn out some nice workable stuff. I wanna see some of your spoils too ;D.
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Crap, I turned around and headed south before I got to Bandera and Kerrville. All I kept seeing was limerock so I headed for the corn fields.
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Dang, Paul, I've been calling and leaving messages on your phone since Friday.
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My bad, I guess :-\. Wish Id'a known, prolly coulda helped....
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I'll take some pictures tomorrow at work. I've got to wash some of that black clay off.
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Good on ya Eddie. Pop a cold one, you deserve it!
Swamp
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Let me know when you get home, and I will buy you a cold one, and even take you and Kathy out for ribs, or spaghetti. I figure you must be tired of mex food. ;D Dang, sounds like Oregon driving. A hundred miles between anywhere! :o
Wayne
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Here's a few pictures, not as much as I wanted to get but I pilfered a few more from the BBQ place today.
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Sure is purdy rock.
Swamp
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Looks like your out in the rain Eddie ;D. That's some standard stuff you'll find down there. How long are you here and will you have another day off? I wish I'd been paying attention this weekend, damn it :-\ :).
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Paul, Yea, been in the rain all day up 215' high looking down on Beautiful Stinkadena. I don't know if I'll get another chance. I'm hoping to go home this weekend. Just found out this mornong I have to leave for Brazil Feb. 15 for about 40 days.
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Brazillian agate ::)?
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Paul, Yea, been in the rain all day up 215' high looking down on Beautiful Stinkadena. I don't know if I'll get another chance. I'm hoping to go home this weekend. Just found out this mornong I have to leave for Brazil Feb. 15 for about 40 days.
Ouch! That stinks Eddie. That means you leave earlier AND get shafted on turkey season. What happened to leaving in March?
Swamp
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Not far from where I'll be working is where it comes from, Paul. I'll have to see how hard it is to get it back to the States. I'll have all the USDA paper work ans stamps to import samples back.
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Bjorn, they finally got there ass in gear down there. It looks like my turkey season will really be screwed. At least I'll be back for the Classic.
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A moment of silence. Hey just tell me exactly where to set up a blind and I'll shoot a couple for ya! >:D Seriously, that's a bummer. Hurry up, wait, hurry up, wait, hurry up.... gotta love it. Tell them they owe you an Elk trip or something.
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Most of that looks like some kind of chacedony. The first and last picture looks like it would make beautiful points!
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Shannon, the rain makes it look purty. But that blue looking one is blue. I'm curious about some lite cream colored one I didn't take a picture of.
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That first one with some banding in it will make a purty point, the last one will too but both of em are kinda quartzy chalky kinda hard to knap stuff. They'll work with an added amount of diligence ;D.
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Ya know, now that I think about it. That stuff mostly reminds me of this Tallahata stuff - just my 10 cents.
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Well, Gee, Paul. I like my load of crap I drove 600 miles for. ;D
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Well, Gee, Paul. I like my load of crap I drove 600 miles for. ;D
It ain't crap! That's good lookin stuff. You'll feel good about any points you get from it.
Paul and I were talking today about how about 4 in 10 chunks of Tallahatta work pretty good and he compared it to his pedernales. He said it was about the same. Not calling it crap...just that you have to work for it. :D
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my brother is going to texas in a few weeks
im gonna show him these pics and tell him to look in planters at restuarants etc for this stuff
if he brings me some back,i might actually make a point for him ;)
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Naw, that's a good load of 600 mile crap ya got there - hehehehe :D. It's just that some of it's better than others, and just cause it's purty don't mean it's the best knappin stuff :D. It will all make something, hahahaha ;D. Just wish I'd been paying attention while you were here - man, keep kickin myself in the butt..
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im drooling
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Tim, give your brother a little hammer and tell him to knock a chunk off so you get the good stuff. I've been going to lunch early, so I get my special parking spot, you know, away from the windows ;)
Paul, I was hoping we could get together, How about I kick ya in the Butt in Tenn? Or get ya a beer? ;) If I was doing what you were I probally couldn't find my phone.
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;D ;D ::)
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So, Eddie did you put that crap in buckets? ;D Are you going to heat treat it? When are you going to be home? The offer for Dinner, and a beer is still on. I would like to get a piece of that stuff, to try to make a knife blade. Every time I get a decent knife blade going out of Obsidian, just when I get to feeling like this going to make it, one end or the other just neatly drops off! >:( I was whacking on some kind of chert, or flint, that was in one of those buckets, and it is some kinda tough stuff. But I was able to get a point out of it. Not nearly as thin as I would like it to be, but functional. Soooo I was thinking if that stuff is that tough, it should behave when I try to make a knife point out of it! 8) Dang Shannon, you sure have learned just way too much, in such a short time. I have never see chalcedony before, and would not recognize from any other rock. Anyway, enjoy the bar b que, and free rock...... ;D I hope you get home before they notice that thier rock garden has had some kind of varmint in it...... ;D And maybe show some of the locals, what you have, and are looking for, maybe they can point you to a mother lode......Now that Cowboy woke up, and checked his e-mail, maybe as a show of good sportsmanship, he can run a load of the good stuff down to you..... ::) You could buy him a bar b qued sandwhich, and a beer...... ;D Oh what the hell, get him a shot of Mescal and some hot peppers to go with it! ::)
Maybe we can invite ol Bone Pile over, and we can have a beer, and rock knapping and whack party...... ;D If Claude hasn't left by the time you get back, maybe we can have few beers at his soon to be former residence, then we can start helping him clean up the yard...... ;)
Wayne
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Wayne, I don't know when I'm leaving Texas, but when I get home I'm leaving for Brazil pretty quick. The rock will be in my back yard. You know where, go get some if I'm not home.
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Mullet, what and have Kathy shoot my tresspassing butt? Nah, I can wait till you get home. I can wait to make gravel out of it for a while....I still have some stuff here to cuss at. ;D I would like to see Claude before he leaves, if he hasn't gone already. man, you need to get paid for inconvenience. No Turkey hunting...... :'( Well if you are out there long enough, maybe Paul can get down to where you are, and take you to the good spots. Hey, Bone pile, do you know the dates for the Dade City knapp in, and the address? Thanks......
Wayne
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Wayne, the dates were posted in another thread. I think it's the weekend of Feb. 19, 20, 21.
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Thanks, now I just need the address, so I can put it in my GPS.
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Withlacoochee River Park in Dade City.
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Nice looking points Eddie, Man I would love to find some stone like that.
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Thanks, Rick. The rock is in Texas, ask Cowboy. ::) ;D ;)
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gee....too bad that you can't swing by here...and pick up that Oven...and then you could cook that whole mess at once......... ;)
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Whew, a long way to drive. :)
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Love that Texas rock. I'm anxious to see what you turn it into.
Jim
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Yep, theres some perd here ifn ya know where to look ::).
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cowboy that si a cool pic 8)
but ya should have pulled some of then dang blasted weeds out to make it easier to see all the purty rocks ;D
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That makes me SICK! >:(
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Yep!, That's the place I was hoping to find. But... ???
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Eddie; Isn't that the way it always turns out. Oh......you should have gone here..... ::)
Wayne
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Dang, I feel bad about that Eddie! I'll bring ya some if your at the Classic. And remember, if your ever around here with a day off again go to LaCoste, TX. You'll find it there..
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I have that place circled on my map of Texas. I'm off Sunday but Don't know if I want to make that run again. I've got to load up on shrimp before I go home. I found a place with Collosal size for $4.39 a pound. Only 3 or 4 to a pound. I'm taking home 20 or 30 pounds to freeze. ;D
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Dang, Eddie, is there a nuke plant around there? :o
Wayne
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Gulf of Mexico Shrimp caught the day before ;D
Cowboy, looking at the map I was not more than 2 miles from LaCoste. I was righ where I-410 and I-35 meet.
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Wayne ...they feed off all of the Waste from the Petroleum Plants and Off Shore Rigs.............Thats why They are so Big..... :P
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Three or four to a pound - sheesh!! Couple of those with the trimmins would make you and Kathie a meal...
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They'll probally eat them all before I get home from SA.
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Oh gee thanks El D! :P Did Eddie tell yo to say that so I would not invite myself over for a "Schwimp dinner?" ::) I guess they would fry up better that way..... pre oiled and all...... ;D Well I eat oysters, and they are not cleaned, so to speak......I guess at that size they would be best dipped in garlic, and lemon butter, and put on the grill...... 8) Man I wish they were that cheap down here! :o
Wayne
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Paul....besides Rocks....what is planted in that there Field??
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I also went by PA's office today. It looked nice, Paul, what I could see through the window; nobody was there. :'(
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Eddie they were probably down at the field picking up rock...... ;D
Wayne
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Mike: I wish those rocks would grow - Id knock out some smallish bi-faces and just add water ;D.
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Dang, Cowboy, now that would solve all my problems of making a knife blade!!! :o :o
Wayne
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Mike: I wish those rocks would grow - Id knock out some smallish bi-faces and just add water ;D.
What is growing there??
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Ahh, it's corn and cotton. Farmer said he had to buy new plows every year from all the rock. Most places I could see around washes and stuff, the rock is about eighteen inches deep then it's black dirt.
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El D, I couldn't get a good look, but it looks like bell peppers, or maybe squash, but just guessing here. ;)
Wayne
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Thats what it looked like to Me...didn't look like Cotton....... :-\
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Yep, it's cotton. want some seeds?
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well eddie if u get free on sunday like i sed come her and we can get u some nice rock there is a gravel comp close to my house and its just all over the ground here also hehe ttyl
sterling
p.s its alot shorter drive lol