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Title: field points on cane shafts
Post by: aero86 on January 21, 2010, 05:02:18 pm
id like to add some field points to the bamboo(cane) shafts im making so i can shoot them more often.  whats the best way to do that?  are there any that slip over the end of the shaft?
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: DanaM on January 21, 2010, 08:02:38 pm
I just taper the boo like it was cedar if the shaft is a bit fat for the point I sand the end of the shaft down a bit to make it work.
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: aero86 on January 21, 2010, 08:04:01 pm
ok, i just didnt know if anyone put a small plug in, or if the walls could handle it.
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: DanaM on January 21, 2010, 08:07:40 pm
if its river cane you may want to plug it Tonkin doesn't need it. try a scrap piece and see what works for ya
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: Hillbilly on January 21, 2010, 11:47:57 pm
I do mine like Dana said. If it's thick walled, you don't need to plug it. If there's a good sized hole, put a piece of dowel or bamboo skewer in it.
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: El Destructo on January 22, 2010, 04:44:40 am
I do it all them ways...if it's thin...I plug them...that Tonkin Eddie sent Me....is so thick it don't need any help....and then there is my Favorite way..I buy the smallest Carbon Arrow threaded inserts you can buy....drill the Shafts out....glue in the Inserts....and now you have a Multipurpose Shaft...instead of just a Target Shaft.....works great on Tonkin Boo....thats what I shot my 230 pound 7 pointer with this Year....JMO
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: bobnewboy on January 22, 2010, 10:13:13 am
Here in the UK I buy 5/16" (seems best fot for the shafts I buy) paralllel fit piles for my bamboo arrows.  I scrape the outer rind down on my bamboo arrows until the shaft fits tightly in the pile, and glue together using two-pack glue.  I dont use plugs at the pile end, but I do use plugs of scrap osage at the nock end, again glued in with two-pack adhesive, before I cut the self nocks into the shaft.
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: NTD on January 22, 2010, 10:24:30 am
What kind of glue do you use for the inserts Mike?  Think I want to try that on my next tonkin arrows.
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: El Destructo on January 22, 2010, 12:05:09 pm
Either Super Glue Gel...or Bohning Powerbond Adhesive....the Bohning is my favorite...gives a lot more Set Time...and stays more Pliable than Super Glue...so if you hit a Rock or something hard...the Glue won't fail
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: Robert E. Leet on January 23, 2010, 02:49:33 pm
If you get wooden dowls that are just bigger than your boo than you hardly need any glue.  I sand down my dowles slightly then packe 'em with the heaviest hide glue I have.  Seems to work pretty good, but I don't know how they'll hold up.  (Only had for a couple months)  But I'd follow El Destructo's advice, he knows best. . .
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: NTD on January 23, 2010, 02:54:06 pm
Thanks Mike.  I used Duco to glue my points on my cane on the last set and when shooting the other day lost 4 points in a row...It was frustrating...eh but i guess it gives me the chance to try the inserts...
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: Tsalagi on January 23, 2010, 02:56:39 pm
I use Duco for fletching. But I use Superglue to put on field points. Here in the winter, the cold will defeat hot melt glue and the points will fall right off outside.
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: El Destructo on January 23, 2010, 03:09:39 pm
Tsalagi...thats exactly why I use either Super Glue or the Powerbond...they don't let go...the More I use the Bohning Powerbond...the More I seem to like it better....it's a strong as Gorilla Glue....without the Air Bubbles that Gorilla Glue is Notorious for... And Nate...once you make a set with the Inserts....you will wonder how and why you didn't do it from the Start..... ;D...and if you are worried that the cane is too thin after the Inserts are installed...you can wrap the ends with Sinew and Hide Glue....or Silk String and Super Glue for your added peace of Mind.... :P
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: Tsalagi on January 23, 2010, 07:52:28 pm
El D, yes, I discovered the pitfalls of hot melt glue the hard way, LOL! Losing field points.
Title: Re: field points on cane shafts
Post by: hedgeapple on January 24, 2010, 01:56:20 am
I've only done a couple field points this way but I liked the results.  Then again I lost the arrows while stump shooting.  :)  The screw inserts were a bit large than was the hole in my cane.  I tightened a file in my vice.  Then, put the field point in my electric drill, point end facing the motor.   Touching the thread end of the field tip to the file I was able to keep the end round and reduce it to fit in the cane hole.  Probably a bit of over-kill, but used 2 ton epoxy to glue it in.