Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Kviljo on January 19, 2010, 05:29:47 pm

Title: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Kviljo on January 19, 2010, 05:29:47 pm
It's been a while since I posted anything here, but I've just finished a bow that I think of as pretty primitive. I think this tiller, with a slight bend in the outer limbs is much better than the non-bending overweight outer limbs. It provides lighter outer limbs, plus it relieves a little stress from the inner limbs, giving the bow overall less stringfollow.

Holmegård made from Norwegian ash, 40# @ 28".


(http://kviljo.no/bue/holmegaard/1.jpg)

(http://kviljo.no/bue/holmegaard/2.jpg)

(http://kviljo.no/bue/holmegaard/3.jpg)

(http://kviljo.no/bue/holmegaard/4.jpg)

(http://kviljo.no/bue/holmegaard/5.jpg)

(http://kviljo.no/bue/holmegaard/6.jpg)
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Josh on January 19, 2010, 05:32:58 pm
wow that thing is AWESOME!!!  I love that kink in the left limb and I think you nailed the tiller on that crooked piece.  I agree about the holmgaard tips needing to bend slightly to increase performance.  I have never built one but plan to soon.  Once again nice bow man!   ;D  -josh
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: barebo on January 19, 2010, 05:34:26 pm
That is SLICK !!!! Great job on a wavy stave - must have been a challenge.
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Dane on January 19, 2010, 05:40:58 pm
Beautiful as always.

I was wondering about the tip - did you do side nocks, one on one side, the other on the other side? Something like the nocks you made for your last warbow? What is the advantage in that? Did the original design feature those kinds of side nocks?

Dane
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: dragonman on January 19, 2010, 05:44:56 pm
Well done Kviljo,you made a nice bow with practically no set, not easy with ash, and a difficult piece of wood, good work!
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: kerryb on January 19, 2010, 05:48:31 pm
great work, beautiful bow
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Kviljo on January 19, 2010, 05:56:09 pm
Thanks guys :) It shoots quite well, and is pleasant in the hand. The design is really good.

Dane, the tips are basically the same as on the Mary Rose bows, just without the horn. The notches are on different sides, so that the string lies diagonally along the bow. I don't think it is possible to see any nocks on the original holmegårds. I've never seen or heard of it at least. The advantage is that you can have narrower tips without weakening them with notches on both sides. The loop needs to be a snug fit, or the notch needs to be deep. I usually make a selftightening loop, but this one is not.

These kinks are pretty easy to deal with. Just tiller the limb on each side of it, and give it the same thinkness and width as the non-kinky (;D) parts of the limb. I like to leave them 1 or 2 milimeter thicker to make sure they are safe, though.
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Parnell on January 19, 2010, 05:56:40 pm
Beautiful job - I like how the outer limbs bend slightly.  The pictures are great!
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: RyanY on January 19, 2010, 06:11:20 pm
That is so sweet. What kind of a front view profile does that have?
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Badger on January 19, 2010, 06:19:12 pm
great job on that one, very primitive and well made. Steve
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: tombo on January 19, 2010, 06:23:07 pm
Nice bow! I agree that the outer limbs need to bend and be as light as possible on those holmgaards. I bet it shoots smooth! Tom
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: medicinewheel on January 19, 2010, 06:26:43 pm
That's a really nice bow!
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Kviljo on January 19, 2010, 07:14:36 pm
Thanks, all. You're a great bunch :)

Ryoon, I'm afraid I forgot to take a picture of the front profile. It's mostly 2" wide to midlimb, tapering in concave lines to the nocks.
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: rileyconcrete on January 19, 2010, 07:46:34 pm
sweet bow.  I really like the finish. It almost looks like dark colored antler.

Tell
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: fusizoli on January 19, 2010, 07:56:50 pm
What a  bow! Wow
Thats for BOM shure  ;)

Nice arrow too.
Great work both, congrats!
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: RyanY on January 19, 2010, 08:10:16 pm
Thats okay. I know you said holmegaard so thats what I figured for a front view profile but I couldn't tell from the pics. Again, awesome work. I really want to get to you level when it comes to making high speed straight stave bows. I know you like to stick to flight shooting but how much testing do you do with 10ggp arrows? :)
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Kviljo on January 19, 2010, 08:27:35 pm
I havent been testing any with 10 grains per pound yet. I need to make myself a shootingmachine and set the chronograph up in my shop, and make a set of different weight arrows first. One board holmegaard I have is faster than a tomohawk GF bow, at least.

Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: kiltedcelt on January 19, 2010, 08:39:44 pm
Kviljo,

That is some pretty serious skill in tillering that crazy piece of wood! My hat's off to you to be able to tiller something with that big of a whoop-te-do in the limb. Excellent bow!
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: gmc on January 19, 2010, 08:43:28 pm
Now that bow has character!

 Nice job on a very challenging stave.

Greg
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: PeteC on January 19, 2010, 08:49:11 pm
Great job on a challenging piece of wood. I like it.Very primitive. God Bless
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: OldBow on January 19, 2010, 09:44:58 pm
That is nice. and PRIMITIVE! Kinky, too. Very interesting candidate for January Self BOM.
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: El Destructo on January 19, 2010, 09:51:36 pm
Awesome Bow....I am working on an ELB that is sorta like that ...with the big GINK in the Limb....You did a great job!
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Keenan on January 19, 2010, 09:58:56 pm
Very nice character bow, congratulations
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: mullet on January 19, 2010, 10:46:10 pm
  Great job tillering that one. It look's primitive.
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: ricktrojanowski on January 19, 2010, 11:36:25 pm
That is very impressive, What a beauty.  It must have been a chore to tiller that one but, it looks like you nailed it.  Job well done.
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Pappy on January 20, 2010, 06:50:37 am
Very nice job,lots of character. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: nathan elliot on January 20, 2010, 12:54:48 pm
Primitive sophistication, thats what that is ;).

Nat
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: parspektiv on January 21, 2010, 11:00:50 am
I like it a lot! It´s probably like you said, that the outer limbs should bend a bit, at least that´s the way I use to do it.  What finish did you use?
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: coyote pup on January 21, 2010, 11:22:17 am
Excellent work!  How long is it? Or did I miss it?
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Kviljo on January 21, 2010, 01:01:48 pm
It's got Herdins dark brown stain, plus a few layers of danish oil. I scraped it lightly before oiling, to get the "old" effect.

Don't think I measured it, but it is probably around 67" long.
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Dane on January 21, 2010, 01:23:30 pm
Ivar, thanks for the info about the nocks. It is appreciated.
Dane
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Aries on January 22, 2010, 12:44:52 am
Very good job! ive been keeping my eye out for an epic wavy piece of osage during my walk abouts, so i can try makin one of these wild character bows too  8)
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: Hrothgar on January 22, 2010, 07:31:40 am
Thats an amazing bow, makes me feel guilty for some of the tillering jobs I've done with a straight stave.
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: GregB on January 22, 2010, 09:16:00 am
Very nice tiller job on that difficult piece of wood!
Title: Re: Holmegård (pics)
Post by: radius on February 04, 2010, 05:13:01 pm
that one looks very challenging...or rather, like it WAS a challenge...but you are obviously up to it!  nice work